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so im cruising down Indio, Ca... CHP pulls me over and says my front windows are too dark( lighter than the stock tint) gave me a fix-it-ticket for the tint.. but i saw somewhere the limit(percentage) allowed for california cars.. ive asked around and nobody knows so thats why i come here..anybody know??
 

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pick up a copy of the vehicle code from dmv...i think that in CA tint is not allowed on windshield or driver/passenger windows...but the vehicle code is great resource for fighting tickets and knowing what you can get away with. i used to keep a copy in the car when I lived in CA.
 

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hmm.. i saw somewhere the percentage limit but just dont remember where.. :\
 

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I’m pretty sure the percentage just refers to the back windows.
None allowed on drivers window (not sure about the front passenger). Windshield only as a strip, I think up to 6”.

Heck, it’s CA. Seems whatever you do its illegal! :rolleyes:
 

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here is the CHP answer...but if you really wanna get technical...

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

but if you really wanna get technical...here is the vehicle code: meaning that all films are illegal only tinted glass is legal and only in certain applications:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708_5.htm

Transparent Materials
26708.5. (a) No person shall place, install, affix, or apply any transparent material upon the windshield, or side or rear windows, of any motor vehicle if the material alters the color or reduces the light transmittance of the windshield or side or rear windows, except as provided in subdivision (b), (c), or (d) of Section 26708.
(b) Tinted safety glass may be installed in a vehicle if (1) the glass complies with motor vehicle safety standards of the United States Department of Transportation for safety glazing materials, and (2) the glass is installed in a location permitted by those standards for the particular type of glass used.
 

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the limit is 70%. That's been the CA law since 1999.

the code screwbag is seeing is out dated. Looks like someone at the DMV needs to update the website... it's only been 8 years now....

I assume the cop used a meter, being that the law states an actual percentage, if he did not use a meter to prove that the film was darker than 70%, the citation is worthless. "It looked too dark" is not a reasonable defense for the officer in court, "looking" is not proof of infraction.

But YES, film IS allowed on the front doors in CA - it simply can not be darker than 70% total light transmission.
 

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I thought I read it was somewhere around 90-95%. Where did you get the 70% Pumpkin? Just curious on the source, I'd like to read up on it.
 

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Amended Sec. 2, Ch. 476, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999


site was last updated 2007 sometime...but like i said before...go to DMV and buy a copy of the VC and read it....my book at home is a 2003 so i couldn't be sure if there has been any changes...most cops haven't read the book since the academy and so they aren't up on changes either...and if ya really wanna split hairs have a lawyer interpret for you.
 

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Hmmm, i got a ticket bout a year ago for having very light tinting on my front windows. This is the law i hate more than any other, it's ridiculas and unjustifiable. Sure, i can understand if I was running limo tint but it's 30%. I was told by the HP officer the law states that you can't have any tinting on front windows because it "obstructs the drivers view". I'm sitting there thinking "yeah right, you just don't like it cause it obstructs your view"! I got the confirmation ticket by mail from the HP so i'm assuming that means it wasn't just an unknowlagible opinion. This happened to me ten years ago and i just had to remove it and go to any police dept. and it would be written off. The twist this time was, on the mailed citation, it said i could pay a ten dollar fine, then show proof of removal and that was it or....I could pay $120 fine. So i called and asked "So...If I pay this $120 fine does that mean i can keep my tinting ?(cause it's really good tint and it will cost me $120 to remove it and re apply new tinting anyway). Her response was, "Well, you don't have to remove it now but you can be stopped again and you can be cited again because...legally, you are not allowed any tinting on the front windows". I elected to go through the trouble and expense of removing and re tinting. I refuse to give this money to the HP when I do not support and in actuality despise this particular law. With all the info. i've read here, I am going to DMV to pick up "the book" to see what it says. After all, i just tinted windows on my new xb and it would be great if i had some verification that indicates I do not have to remove it...but as i stated, my last incident was only a year ago.
 

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I was about to saay search the transportaion code and it should be there. I got one of these BS tickets about 10 years ago, the cop metered it and said he never saw such a low number before. It wasnt a moving violation so I just paid the BS fine and went on my merry way.
But now as part as of the Texas State Inspection they are required to check it most stations don't.

Dont ever take some cops word on LAW, that is what the courts are for. There is no way in hell a cop can know every damn law on teh books, A little research on the internet goes a long way, I know a guy here in Houston who has no drivers license and has been stopped numerous time and after so many trips to court and burning there ass they just let him go, he passes go and goes straight to where ever no jail no court no nothing, he has done his home work.


the limit is 70%. That's been the CA law since 1999.

the code screwbag is seeing is out dated. Looks like someone at the DMV needs to update the website... it's only been 8 years now....

I assume the cop used a meter, being that the law states an actual percentage, if he did not use a meter to prove that the film was darker than 70%, the citation is worthless. "It looked too dark" is not a reasonable defense for the officer in court, "looking" is not proof of infraction.

But YES, film IS allowed on the front doors in CA - it simply can not be darker than 70% total light transmission.
 

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See: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver's View
26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.

(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the rear of that window and which provides the driver with a wide-angle view through the lens.

(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with the device.

(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public or private roads or facilities.

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following conditions apply:

(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

(2) The material is not red or amber in color.

(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the installing company and the material's manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material's manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed according to manufacturer's instructions meets the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the material's manufacturer by full name and street address.


(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed or replaced.
Amended Sec. 77, Ch. 1154, Stats. 1996. Effective September 30, 1996.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 476, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.
See also: http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html

Tinting the front side windows and the windshield (except for a narrow band at the top of the windshield). Windows behind the driver's head may be tinted. If rear window is tinted, right-side mirror is required (26708 VC).
The first is the law, the second is how much detail the officer on the street knows...
 

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For window tint, I used an online window tint place called SnapTint.com. They basically pre-cut the film to the size and shape of your scion, and you apply it yourself.

Since all the windows are so flat on the XB, it was pretty easy. The film they use seems good, took a sample to my local professional, and they verified it as lifetime performance film.

Total cost was around $85. Local places were charging me $150-250 for lifetime film so it was worth a gamble. So far 2 years and no problems.

BEST part is that if I ever get a ticket in Cali, went limo all the way around, I can redo the front windows for only $20. They have a replacement film program that replaces any window for whatever reason for $9.99.


so im cruising down Indio, Ca... CHP pulls me over and says my front windows are too dark( lighter than the stock tint) gave me a fix-it-ticket for the tint.. but i saw somewhere the limit(percentage) allowed for california cars.. ive asked around and nobody knows so thats why i come here..anybody know??
 

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lol.. talk about thread revival.. but yeah.. I've gotten pulled over for tint round 3 times and got ticketed once.. I guess i'm kinda lucky.. but yeah.. here in cali, can't have tint in the front windows..
 
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