Couldn't agree more. The gearing on the Gen II is more than adequate to pull 2,000lbs.+/- ................as long as you're not dealing with a large area of wind resistance. Wouldn't want to push speed limits due to added stopping distance.I think the biggest factor in successful 2nd gen XB towing is wind resistance. If you've got a trailer that captures the wind you'll have a hard time. Our Aliner is totally out of the wind so our XB doesn't mind the weight at all. Never even breathes hard.
Can't image ANY change in RPM IF you're in the same gear.Normally at 65 mph my rpms are around 2,5000. Even with the trailer little change.
But I am towing a Classic Titanium Aliner trailer approx 15 ft and 17,000 lbs loaded with electric brakes.
I just put the transmission in D and let it shift as needed except when facing long hills. I'll then pre-shift it down a notch. Turning off the A/C helps quite a bit in hill climbing too. Fortunately our 15' Aliner isn't the much higher off road model so there isn't any noticeable wind resistance.Hey Bob,
What gear do you put your Scion in when towing? I have a 2008 Xb automatic and it has D, 1 or S as an option. (I think that's what it says)
Well have the ALiner and freaked out a bit to see it next to the Scion. I went around and around with the dealer to see if he could get a smaller unit in stock and a lower one as this one is for off road. I had to go with him as I had a trade in teardrop and the only one in the state. But when it came down the unit was smaller. Because of the Curt hitch though I had to have a custom made ball mount of almost 10" s in rise! So down the road I went. I already had the Scion loaded and she went down another 2 inches but still plenty of play( next I most likely be putting on something to help with that). Normally at 65 mph my rpms are around 2,5000. Even with the trailer little change. So time for the true test....up he 7 mile winding steep mountain pass. Got behind a truck and tried to stay there but the Scion got antsy. Did not want to go 25mph. I decided to keep the rpms between 2,500 and 3,000 up the grade and let her loose. Only had the gas pedal half down and still flew past trucks. I put her in third gear most of the climb but took off in drive and suddenly was doing 72 mph! Brought back down to 65 ( it is a good idea with a trailer to keep speed down in case of problems). Anyway was very pleasantly surprised and turned around and came back down. Again the Scion clung to the curves and the trailer handled right behind. No sway at all.
Now I have a lot of trailering experience and even with this first review do not recommend novices to run out and use this as a towing vehicle. To tow properly is a learning experience. And you need to know the type of equipment to use nd how to balance your trailer load. I am using an IPad so cannot post pictures yet. But I am owing a Classic Titanium Aliner trailer approx 15 ft and 17,000 lbs loaded with electric brakes.
Hi Slide81,I have actually been considering towing with my 08 xB auto. I too have the class II curt hitch, but the trailer I was thinking of pulling is a 6x10 "Silver Shadow" tear drop. @1100lbs empty, I am considering a trans cooler. Also, I live in NC where hills are pretty prominent. My other thought was a possible tune on the shift firmness. With the frame of thought that Less slippage equates to less wear and tear.
Bah, I don't believe in limitations of age. My father owns that teardrop and he is 72 lol. I have been trying to get him into a 4spd 1962-1964 Corvair drop top, but funding isn't quite where I need it to be.Hi Slide81,
That's a beautiful XB and trailer. You'll have no wind drag and at 1100 lbs I seriously doubt you'll need the tranny cooler. We pulled 2000 lbs all around the country and never had a moment's problem. Totally stock '08 XB. Soon after we passed the 100,000 mile mark we traded her in on a 2014 RAM 1500 with the Pentastar V6. Our fuel mileage is about the same as our XB but I've got 305 HP and we're now pulling a 24' Forest River travel trailer.
All the years we pulled our 2000 lb Aliner we never lost a drop of oil, water or transmission fluid. What a car! We seriously miss our XB but at our age we needed a different type of trailer and tow vehicle.