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I'll put my avalon up against any cadillac ever built in terms of quality and craftsmanship ANYDAY. And yes, I am upper middle class. I just dont piss my money away on junk cars. Go back to SL.Upper middle class do...
...but he wouldn't know anything about that would he.
Oh no he didn't!!!
Quality and build don't matter.I'll put my avalon up against any cadillac ever built in terms of quality and craftsmanship ANYDAY. And yes, I am upper middle class. I just dont piss my money away on junk cars. Go back to SL.
lowriders buy caddy also....and don't get so damn offended, damn people. Upper middle class people are basically the only people who buy Caddy anyway.
*rolling eyes*FYI - White Amerikan guy talkin' here....
Down with this "Buy American" pride. I buy the best for my money. So do a lot of others, which explains the impending demise of Ford. Maybe if they focused a bit more something besides the SUV, they might have made ot to see 2010.
It is evolution of the business world.
What USA Auto-makers need to do in order to compete with Honda/Mazda/Nissan/Toyota?
The most important thing is to make a quality (read:reliable) product, which arguably has not been happening since 1974. Not to mention the horrible styling as well.
But most importantly, the US companies must not dismiss the importance of a "greener" car (not, auto manufacturing will never be totally green). Toyota gets the thumbs up for their efforts to reduce emissions from smokestacks as well as tailpipes. In the past 15 years, Toyota has cut its carbon-dioxide emissions in Japan to 1.78 million tons annually, from 2.12 million tons, while globally, C02 emissions per car produced are down 15% since 2002.
Toyota is way ahead of the targets established in the Kyoto Protocol. The treaty, which was agreed to in 1997 but didnt come into effect until 2005, calls for Japan and most other developed countries to cut emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases by an average of 6% from 1990 levels by 2012. In addition, Tokyo has told companies that they must reduce their emissions by 8.6% from 1990 levels.
How does Toyota manage do this? One explanation is better efficiency. By replacing multiple production lines with single lines capable of producing different vehicles, Toyota has decreased energy usage by as much as 40%. Similarly, a welding system that Toyota began rolling out to plants globally in 2003 helped speed up production, cut costs, and also led to a 50% reduction in C02 emissions by using less electricity.
That has been helped by Toyota's bumper profits of $10 billion for the year to March -- money that has been poured into investment in newer, cleaner factories
That puts Toyota way ahead of the targets established in the Kyoto Protocol while the US companies continue to delay and deflect the real threat of global warming and laugh off the need for real change.
whoo its a domestic vs import thread. you both have very true and usefull information that pertains to each post. your both right. uhm... thanks. i dont think its its a this vs that, that its going to turn into. people arent open minded enough to see both manufactures values these days.
at the bottom line, the xb was the most practicle for me for a number of reasons
Where i live. [ac/heating standard]
where i drive [great fuel economy]
Budget [low base price]
Features [loaded. standard.]
Maintenance [free oil changes / coverage]
Warranty. [i got 7yr 75k mi]
It was had to find any other vehicles that could compete with that in my region. I tried to max my bang for my buck and i think Toyota has a pretty good handle on that. but the nitty gritty comes down to nit picking between companys for like 5 less MPG for 10 more HP. there are allot of comperable cars from all walks of manufactures.
and not to mention the modification process, and ease. with parts readily available. and i just like the styling. i buy what i like.