How has this forum grown into such a place full of bad attitude? some guys still protest that cambering out the back of our cars is "stupid and it looks dumb". So in other words( or in theirs) They proceed to knock every one of our cars built this way. You guys can check my thread titled l"esson on camber" there. What a bunch of nice guys. most were cool about it, some are not. So many people (sometimes even myself) really need to step back and understand why someone does soemthing a certain way. there are some things most of us will never understand like installing an amp and new speakers ONLY in the back of a car for sound. Well whatever, if they want to continue bashing other peoples cars cuz theirs is stock and they have no idea what to do cuz there is no sense of style, then so be it. they can have their one track mind ways.