My buddy Andre was picking on me real hard about my box when I got it. He hated it until I took him for a ride in it the other day, and told him what they cost. I just got a call from him, he is at the dealer looking at a BSP and crunching #'s as we speak! That is cool, me and Dre' go way back, and he is a cool guy. I will try to get him to join the forum, but he doesn't do much with computers, so I doubt he will. These boxes really grow on people!