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Question Front Strut Bar Advice Wanted

Looks like I'm in the market for a strut bar for my Gen1 box.

I just ordered new KYB struts and strut mounts- should be here in a couple of days.

Does anybody have any experiences good or bad with particular strut bars, and especially any issues with them playing nice with the KYB parts?

I'm mainly looking to stiffen the car to prevent future windshield stress cracks since I just replaced one windshield, and I have a hole in the roof for my sunroof.

Car is a daily driver, and although I drive "with gusto", I'm not looking for ultimate stiffness- just something that handles well and is comfortable for long periods.

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Re: Front Strut Bar Advice Wanted

It's best to get a rear sway bar first that will help your Xb more. A front strut bar real doesn't help the Xb at all, but it looks good !!!
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It's best to get a rear sway bar first that will help your Xb more. A front strut bar real doesn't help the Xb at all, but it looks good !!!
I got a Progress rear sway bar and I agree- works fantastically!

I'm looking for the front strut bar to hopefully prevent future windshield stress cracks, especially since I lost some structure by installing a sunroof.
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Sorry about the picks but its poring outside...How much does it cost to have a sunroof put in, that would be great.

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Sorry about the picks but its poring outside...How much does it cost to have a sunroof put in, that would be great.
Thanks for the pic!

Sunroof cost me $1500 installed here in South Florida.

I got a Westabo Hollandia 700-II

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There's a pic of it on my "Garage" page.

I like it a lot!

There's another company making sunroofs that I checked out, also makes a good product-

Signature Sunroofs

I got a quote from a local shop of $1600 for that one.

Check with your local installers- you can probably negotiate a little.

If you get one- be careful of where they put the drains. My guy initially had the drains running into the inside of the rocker panels so the rain would exit via gaps in the pinch welds. I thought that was a very bad idea- if some debris gets in there (dried leaves maybe!) then the gaps will clog causing overflowing into the cabin, and promoting rust in the rocker.

I had them re-route the drains so they exit inside the wheel wells. I told them I want nothing between the bottom of the drain tubes and the pavement.

If you search for sunroof drain problems, you'll see why I insisted on the drain re-location.

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Re: Front Strut Bar Advice Wanted

No matter what kind you get, you will not be sorry !!! Did mine years ago with the TRD and I love my really tight box !!!

The tighter the better !!! LOL
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No matter what kind you get, you will not be sorry !!! Did mine years ago with the TRD and I love my really tight box !!!

The tighter the better !!! LOL
Thanks! I agree!

I'm leaning towards the DC Sports or Weapon-R bars. I like that they mount to all 3 bolts on each tower, and that they're not hinged.

I would think that the non-hinged bars, if they're strong enough, should stiffen things up more than the hinged ones- and that's the point of the bar in the first place, right?

I guess the concern is that they may be concentrating stress somewhere else in the structure that's not made to withstand the load.

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this- hinged vs. non-hinged bars- and why?

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Myself I would not worry about the stress !! When you put this on you just took care of it !!
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Myself I would not worry about the stress !! When you put this on you just took care of it !!
I like the way you think!
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/\/\... Thank you !!!! Just feel lucky that I am still running with the OEM windshield !!!!
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I think I'm going with the DC Sports bar.

I'll wait another day or so to order it to see if I get any more feedback good or bad about this or any other bar.

Thanks for any help you have...
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I have a Hotchkis that i do not use that I can sell you at a good price.

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You will not be sorry !!!
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Love my hotchkis bar. It makes spark plug and air filter changes fun.

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Love my hotchkis bar. It makes spark plug and air filter changes fun.
Ummm... is that sarcastic? I actually don't know!

If so, is there a bar that you think is better?

I'm a total newbie to the world of strut bars!

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Re: Front Strut Bar Advice Wanted

Is there a difference between the Hotchkis rear sway bar vs. Progress rear sway bar such as construction and fit? Fast Scions has the Hotchkis RSB for $199.99 and Progress RSB for $154.95. Also, if I end up getting the Progress RSB and add Hotchkis FSB, is it recommended to keep the same brand or is it okay to have different brand for front and rear sway bar? Have any of you noticed any benefit by adding the front sway bar?

I'm also looking to add a front strut bar but don't know if this will have any impact or is it more aesthetic.
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Is there a difference between the Hotchkis rear sway bar vs. Progress rear sway bar such as construction and fit? Fast Scions has the Hotchkis RSB for $199.99 and Progress RSB for $154.95. Also, if I end up getting the Progress RSB and add Hotchkis FSB, is it recommended to keep the same brand or is it okay to have different brand for front and rear sway bar? Have any of you noticed any benefit by adding the front sway bar?

I'm also looking to add a front strut bar but don't know if this will have any impact or is it more aesthetic.
I don't know about the differences between the Hotchkis and Progress RSBs, but I can tell you that I have the Progress RSB and I absolutely love it. It seems like a high quality, well constructed piece. It totally transformed the handling of my box- more than I ever thought it would. It is the number 1 recommendation I would make to anyone looking to improve a Gen1 box. Installation was super easy.

I have no experience with the Hotchkis RSB.

From doing research last summer, it seemed like most agree that a FSB is of little benefit, but a RSB is a must!

As far as the strut bar, I've heard some say that it's not very effective since the strut towers are so close to the structure in the firewalls, others say it's a big improvement! I don't know, but I'm getting one to add structure to the front. I put in a sunroof and I'm trying to make up for some possible lost chassis rigidity. Hopefully it will help in the handling department as well. I'm anxious to find out!

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Ummm... is that sarcastic? I actually don't know!

If so, is there a bar that you think is better?

I'm a total newbie to the world of strut bars!

Thanks!
Ha yes and no?

I do really like my hotchkis strut bar and I have the hotchkis rear sway bar as well. The front strut bar has holes in it so you can use swivel sockets to get the plugs out. The air box lid is a pain to get out but not too hard. I may go with an aftermarket intake again, that would fix that issue.

Plus I got the strut bar for dirty cheap, like $40 shipped on eBay. I see them on eBay for cheap all the time. I almost bought one the other day for $60 and I was gonna get it powder coated but I decided not to.

As far as what one to get, any will be the same for the most part, just stick with a name brand and I prefer the one piece design. The bars that bolt together may or may not be as strong.

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Is there a difference between the Hotchkis rear sway bar vs. Progress rear sway bar such as construction and fit? Fast Scions has the Hotchkis RSB for $199.99 and Progress RSB for $154.95. Also, if I end up getting the Progress RSB and add Hotchkis FSB, is it recommended to keep the same brand or is it okay to have different brand for front and rear sway bar? Have any of you noticed any benefit by adding the front sway bar?

I'm also looking to add a front strut bar but don't know if this will have any impact or is it more aesthetic.

I feel strut bars help but it's not always something you can feel.

I got my hotchkis rear sway bar from tire rack. Took about a week and a half special order but it is on there site.

Hotchkis has two rear sway bars. Sport and competition, I went with competition, it is thicker but it's heavy. The progress bar I think may be hollow, not 100% sure. I had a progress rear sway bar on my Tiburon and I really enjoyed it.
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