[willix231]

try rotating the polarity.and checking that u didnt bend the connections while pluging it in.some of them bend easily and then dont connect into the sockect right.Try them again and if u can find someone with experience to text them for you it would also help so you can make sure its not human error

[Zman]

I purchased a 6000K kit from HIDextra for $60. They do a lot of business on ScionLife and seem to have good quality based on what people post.

It's good to have a back up anyway.



My next question is, and maybe you be directed somewhere else,

Is it possible to wire Sonars so the low beam stays on when the high beams are activated?

[willix231]

im sure some of the gurus can help u.but that would mean thaT U WOULD TAKE THE the positive from the high beam and split it through the high and low beam.my only worry is if there wont be a voltage surge when the 2 are switching

[Big_Kokujin]

They don't turn off. They stay on.

[willix231]

the low beams turn off even from factory.

[Zman]

So the harness probably cannot handle powering 2 bulbs at once?

[willix231]

the best way to relive the harness of the load would be to run both hid kits for hi and lo beams on the sonars with relays on the balasts so it doesnt draw any reall current from the harness

[Big_Kokujin]

Originally Posted by willix231

the low beams turn off even from factory.

I disagree with that too.

Also it's pointless to have a seperate kit for high beams because it takes time to warm up to operating temp. And turning them off and on kills the longevity of the bulb. Knowing that I would have never had my high beams hooked up when I ran HID with sonars. Because if I had to use them, which I did, to flash someone who had their bright on and coming toward me, it would have been too dangerous at night.

[willix231]

let me teach u a simple way to satisfy ure curiosity.take a multimeter.unplug the harness off ure headlists.turn ure lo beams on and locate ure positive and negative for the lo beam and u should see a voltage reading.when u turn ure high beam on the voltage will disappear and that will show u it turned off.thats the very reason why when u flick from lo to high on sonars the lo's turn off because their supply from the harness has been cut.on the factory headlights and bulbs u wouldnt notice this because the design is a single bulb.

[Big_Kokujin]

Negative. Let me tell you how I know. I'm currently running a bi-xenon setup from a 350z. When I flick the high beams that is wired to the stock harness, guess what happens. The lights stay on, and the cutoff is dropped. If what you are saying is true then the bulb would go off.

Can somebody with sonars go and take a snapshot of what happens.

[willix231]

bixenon does not acqually turn off the bulb.it simply flicks a plate piece to change the focus of the light from lo to high beam.like whise even the oem xb bulb works in a similar way.when u flip the lights to hi the bulb is swithed to a circuit where it activates the portion of the filament which focuses light for hi beam but if u are in doubt then think to ureself why the lo beams turn off on sonars when u flip to high beam???? if the lo beam supply styed on wouldnt the bulb stay lite even on the low beam????

[Big_Kokujin]

I know how it works, I just said that's the type of setup I have, and it's the second bi-xenon setup I've had, so I know how it works. Bi-xenon has nothing to do with wiring. It just means there is one bulb that acts as both hi and low beams(basically). What I'm saying is that if the low beam turns off when the high is activated the bulb(when running bi-xenon) would turn off.

I'm saying the stock bulb works like a 1157 bulb. Like if it was being used as a brake bulb. When you turn on the parking lights only one fillament is on, when you hit the brakes the other comes on without turning off the parking fillament.

I've read that last part of what you said over and over and I still can't figure out what you are saying. Also you are saying for me to think why the low beams turn off. That doesn't make sense when I keep tellling you I don't think they do.

[willix231]

yes thats how the bulb works.but in acquall sense the harness cuts the low beam suplly to the bulb which is only hooked upo to one of the fiullaments.the hi beam supply then activates and this is hooked up to both filaments.but unfortunately on the sonars being that there are 2 bulbs instead of the dual filament single bulb so when the lo beam turns off and high beam is activated the low beam bulb will not have a supply of power anymore

[Zman]

For a lot of cars, the low beams stay on and the highs add to it. (Mazda6 an as example)

The Sonar lights are different, the lows go off and the highs go on simultaneously.

I want to rewire them so the lows (which have HIDs) stay on and the highs (I'm using yellow luminics halogens) go on as well. I'm not going to get an HID kit for the highs, halogens are fine for that.

I would like to preserve my HID low beams however.

They flash up and then take a couple seconds to reach max brightness when switched on.
This is bad if I need my highs but then switch them off for an oncoming car.
I would be without lights for a second, and the possibility of damaging the HIDs is too great.

[willix231]

wire the high beam wire onto the low beam wire on the sonar harness.Usually on stock bulbs the low and high beam filament both stay on and this is because the duall filament bulb has 2 cicuits.when lo beam is active just low beam filament is active but when high beam circuit is on both hi and lo filaments are active.so just run the positive from the hi beam onto positive on low beams on sonar harness and see how that works for u.i suggest u test it with halogen bulbs though first just incase they burn out due to a surge or something

[Zman]

Originally Posted by willix231

wire the high beam wire onto the low beam wire on the sonar harness.Usually on stock bulbs the low and high beam filament both stay on and this is because the duall filament bulb has 2 cicuits.when lo beam is active just low beam filament is active but when high beam circuit is on both hi and lo filaments are active.so just run the positive from the hi beam onto positive on low beams on sonar harness and see how that works for u.i suggest u test it with halogen bulbs though first just incase they burn out due to a surge or something

Thanks! (crosses fingers)

[willix231]

Just dont burn ure car now.lol

[859Toaster]

I want to add something here....

For those of you who decide to buy the "good stuff" aka, no cheap ebay/generic brands that are like $50-150..... McCulloch is the brand you want.

You are going to pay for them quality, but they are insanely awesome. These are designed to be plug and play, and yet reliable, and safe.

Here's how these work:

Each bulb has its own ballast, relay, power and ground. Making flickering unheard of, and light dimming doesn't happen. Each puts out the same light output due to this as well. You will not have one brighter than the other. If you do, it's a poor connection, which is the installers fault, or come loose due to excessive vibrations.

These are plug and play, but do need some assembly. Basically, they give you an adapter that you need to insert the electrical connections into. Its really simple, just insert the wires into the plastic harness, then insert the metal connecting tabs to the corresponding wire. You'll plug your OEM light socket into that. Connect your relays, and power wires, and ground, mount the ballast, tuck wires... DONE!

Here is a link to them:
McCulloch and VisionPRO HID Xenon Kits, Parts & Upgrades.

Here are some photos of mine, on their site:
ULB CUSTOMER VEHICLES

And some other ones I had taken while I owned the xb.





On that last one, I was using my HID's to provide lighting for that photo.

I ran 3200K's. Not to be all JDM like either! But the 3200K produce a light that is natural, so it's easier for the eyes to see. It will also not produce a glare, or reflection off metallic signs. The other awesome part about yellow is the ability to cut through snow/rain/sleet/fog and make things very visible to you. And on back roads where lighting is none to limited, you'll really really really enjoy the area that is light up.

Oh and IDK if it'll help with bug splatters or not, but bugs aren't attracted to yellow lights... However my car looked like this pre-roadtrip once:



and then I smacked a big ole bug at about 5am while driving doing this to my tape/wax job:




(those pictures are over 3 years old now)

[Zman]

Those do look amazing. I didn't know of them, or I would have waited and purchased those.

Hopefully my kit works well enough!

Originally Posted by willix231

wire the high beam wire onto the low beam wire on the sonar harness.Usually on stock bulbs the low and high beam filament both stay on and this is because the duall filament bulb has 2 cicuits.when lo beam is active just low beam filament is active but when high beam circuit is on both hi and lo filaments are active.so just run the positive from the hi beam onto positive on low beams on sonar harness and see how that works for u.i suggest u test it with halogen bulbs though first just incase they burn out due to a surge or something

Okay, I sorta figured this would happen.

Move high beam wire to low beam, low beam switch causes both high and low beams to go on.

High beam switch makes both lights go off.

Move low beam wire to high, and vise versa occurs.


I'm going to try to have the low beam wire go to both the low and high terminals on the harness, while the high only goes to high beam terminal.

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Okay, weird, I split the low beam wire to go to the high beam and both high and low come on for high and low switches for both headlights.

There must be a solution with grounding or something.

I need lows OR highs/lows.

[willix231]

Ure gonna have to run a relay on that wire u used!!!

the relay will prevent the flow of curent back into the wires like it is happening now