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post #1 of 149 Old 07-03-2014, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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15s for the Wife

So, Ragingnomad's thread got me looking at wheels for the wife's xB again. She had 18" Konigs which are long gone and now rides on stock steelies with DF210s. Looking for something simple and inexpensive that could go on the car until she decides to sell it.

I shamelessly stole the photos from Status_Auto to do the 'shop. These are the Advanti Storm S1s on his TCM. The wife's car is very similar, but not quite as low compared to his coilovers. Wheels are flowformed (so quite light weight) and spec out at 15x8 +25 and she has 10mm hub spacers. Close enough to Status_Auto's spec (15x8 +19/+6) that I felt it was a good base to start from.

Anyway, what do you think? Anyone run a set of the new Flow Formed wheels from Konig or Advanti yet?
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Re: 15s for the Wife

OK, so another shameless photo swipe. This time from FLOSS. (Which is the same guy/car, isn't it?)

These aren't nearly as light, but I think it could be a good look. Avid1 AV18s in Tiffany Blue. A subtle hint toward a female driver without being so feminine that I would be ashamed to drive it. Since he already had the Enkei 92s, I just changed the color to match the Avid1 reps.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

My vote is for the Avid1 AV18s. I always prefer something a little different from the norm that isn't so opposite that it's unappealing. This setup would certainly be a bit different from everything else around it while the Tiffany Blue is still attractive enough that I would have no issues driving it myself.

F*ck aerodynamics!
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I could actually go either way. I think both portray a bit of a sporty look. The Advantis just seem a bit more "track/muscle" while the AV18s are certainly more "classic."

The weight difference isn't quite as bad as I thought. Advanti Storm S1 = 11 lbs. The Avid1 AV18 clocks in at 15 lbs, just like the Enkei 92 that it reps. The 15x8.5 JNC version is 18 lbs! Granted they are 1/2" wider, but that is almost the weight of the stock steelies.

The wife liked the AV18s more. The photoshop more so than the actual wheel pic.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

Hello I'm thinking of switching my 16s for 15s. I was looking at the konig feathers, 15x6.5, 38 offset. Currently I have a set of 16x7 Montegi wheels, 40 offset. I do not have any wheel spacers. I am dropped on df210s. Will I have a larger gap and would I need spacers in the rear? What tires sizes would you suggest with those 15s, or is Oem tire size okay?
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For those Konig Feathers, I would stick with the stock tire size. You'll clear the suspension by an additional 0.4" and you'll be tucked in an additional 0.2". Without knowing what tires you run, I can't tell you if you'll have a larger fender gap or not.

If you're looking for a light weight wheel in a 15, I would seriously consider the Konig "Dial In" in a 15x8 or the Advanti "Storm S1" in 15x7 or 15x8 from my first post. Same manufacturer, better construction technique and great pricing.

The 15x7 comes in +35 which would push the wheel out 0.2" compared to your 16s. The 15x8s come in +25 which will be in just 0.1" on the backside, but out an additional 1.1". The 15x7s are obviously much more conservative, and the 15x8s give you a more "flush" look.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

The konig dial ins and advantis look nice. If I decide to get either in 15x8 with 25 offset, will I need spacers? With the 16s I am a bit tucked in the back but it's not bad. What tire size would you recommend? I checked on the miata website (posted in a different thread) and they suggest 205/50/15 or 225/50/15.

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Also with 15x8 will I rub? I currently use my xb as a daily driver.
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A 10mm hub spacer in the rear would not hurt, but probably isn't necessary. It would definitely look better with the spacers as it would keep about the same distance from the wheel lip to the fender in both front and rear. (We run 10mm hub spacers on both of our xBs.

225/50 is a pretty beefy tire. You'll have more of a "squared" tire look and you could get into some rubbing. Especially in the rear if you have spacers. With DF210s, I would consider either a 185/60/15, 195/55/15 of 205/50/15, depending on the wheel width and tire stretch you are looking for.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

Based on the offset guru, 15x8 with a 25 offset is considered hellaflush. Will I have to roll fenders? I was thinking of placing the stock tire size of 185/60/15, or would this be too beefy of a tire?
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Re: 15s for the Wife

Also, would I notice that much of a difference between 15s and 16s in terms of ride comfort. Currently I'm running 16x7 Motegi MR125s, 40 offset, Yokohomas 205/50/16, on Df210s. Attached are a few pics of the front, back, and side view of the xB. The only reason I was thinking of going to 15s would be the ride comfort. I'm not running spacers in the rear.
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Side wall is the biggest factor.
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Zman is correct. All else being equal, diameter, width, tire construction, etc., the shorter the sidewall, the less "plush" the ride. 18s are pretty typical for our cars and the sidewall is usually just shy of 3". On a 15" tire, you get more than 4.5" of sidewall. That is a 50% increase in cushion. And of course 16 and 17s fall in between.

Keep in mind tire/sidewall construction can make a big difference in ride comfort and performance as well.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

So I don't want to go for the stretched look so 15x8 is out. 15x7 looks to be more feasible and would i be okay with the stock tire size, 185/60/15? Again I don't want to go for that beefy tire look. I'm assuming the sidewalk would be cushier than my current setup of 205/60/16?

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You mentioned the offset of 15x7 is +35. So this means the wheel will stick out 0.2 inches in both the front and rear. I don't mind the rear bc I don't run any spacers, but I don't want that poke look on the front. With my current setup on 16s the front is perfect and the rear is tucked in a bit with the +40 offset. So am I correct that the lower the offset, the more the wheel sticks out in both front and rear?
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The 185/60/15 will be fine on the 15x7s. It won't looked to stretched or too beefy.

You're going to be very far from "that poke look on the front." Your wheel edge will still be tucked in about an inch from the fender lip edge. And yes, the lower the number the less the wheel sticks out and the closer it will be to the suspension. The difference between your 16x7s and the 15x7s will hardly be noticeable in terms of "poke" or lack thereof.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

Thanks. So I'm assuming I would have a comfortable ride with 185/60/15 due to having more sidewall (when compared to my 205/50/16). So actually the lower the offset the more the wheel sticks out, the higher the offset the more the wheel sticks in (thus the reason why spacers are needed correct).

I apologize for the noob questions, but just wondering if it's feasible and smart to go down one wheel size. I was primarily looking to gain mpg.
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The right set of 15s can help with MPG. And frankly, on a budget I'm not sure there is anything better than the Advanti S1 Storm in 15x7. The pricing is great, the construction technology is top notch for what they are and they are extremely light. Using something the the S1 Storm you will be reducing not only unsprung weight, but also rotating mass.

If you are really concerned about mpg, you can also consider low rolling resistance tires. Keep in mind though, that this usually means a sacrifice in handling.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

Okay. I'm assuming since I'm lowered on df210s I would probably have a larger gap compared to coilovers from the pics of the tcm box shown from the first post. It's hard to tell from that pic how wide of a gap is there.
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Yes, a little larger gap. Between 0.5" and 1" higher, likely.
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Re: 15s for the Wife

So it's been some time since I posted last. I still have my 16s wrapped in 205/50/16 tires. I am thinking now of getting the Advanti S1 storm wheels in black and wrapping them in 205/50/15. I entered the details on discount tires website from my current setup to my future setup and the chart tells me if I am driving 65mph, my speedo will read 62.3. Is there a reason why this is? Also, will i notice a considerable amount of difference when I switch to 15s? I understand the S1s are about 10 lbs each, very light. I would get 15x7 and offset is 35.


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If you're looking for a quality lightweight 15x7 at a reasonable price, there are 3 models I would look at right now. Advanti Storm S1, Konig Dial In and Konig Helix. All are Flow Formed, very light and will run you around $500/set.

I'd probably look at a 195/55/15 or 185/60/15 tire though. No reason to get something as beefy as the 205 on a 7" wide wheel. I am not sure what chart you are looking at, but the 205/50/15 is a smaller diameter and your speedometer will read higher than your actual speed.
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