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#1 Old 02-26-2012, 05:31 PM
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Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

Hey all,

I bought a whole bunch of fabric to do my headliner and door cards, but after getting it, I realize it is light and almost silk like, so I am worried that upon putting it on, glue will easily seep through. I really like the pattern on the print and I'd like to make this work, so I have some questions and look forward to some suggestions as to how to make it work.

Does 3M spray adhesive dry clear? Is there one someone could suggest that does?

Has anyone done a silk style headliner or lighter fabric with good results?

Would you suggest that for a fabric like this I get a professional install and how much would it run (best guess or previous experience)?

Please let me know, because I think if I can make it work, it'll look amazing, subtle, and very sharp.

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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

i used the 3M fabric spray i picked up at Walmart and it worked great... and you want something a lil thicker than silk... the fabric i picked up is semi thin and i had a few spots "bleed" through but after a month or so its hardly noticeable

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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

I already got a whole mess of this fabric so I'd like to see if it can work before trying to find a new pattern in a thicker fabric.

If the glue seeped through evenly across the entirety of the fabric, would that look horrible? Even if it dried evenly?

I was going to go with 3M 90, for lasting power.
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

The best thing is to do few trial glue applications on pieces of material you got. Every fabric will absorb glue in a different way and unless someone worked with exactly the same material like yours, you will not get an answer you can be 100% sure of.

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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

You're gonna have to wait a while after spraying to put the fabric on.

3M90 has a 4-30 minute wait time.
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The best thing is to do few trial glue applications on pieces of material you got. Every fabric will absorb glue in a different way and unless someone worked with exactly the same material like yours, you will not get an answer you can be 100% sure of.
Very true. I plan to do just that, just trying to get some idea if anyone has come upon any issues with thin fabric and worked around it. I plan on waiting the maximum amount through wait and tack time to get the best tack strength and least moisture.

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You're gonna have to wait a while after spraying to put the fabric on.

3M90 has a 4-30 minute wait time.
In the 3M information thread on here I thought it said it was much faster than that, but regardless, I have no problem waiting, just want to do it right.

Would you guys suggest removing the stock fabric or gluing on top of it?
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

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Would you vouch for this guy?
I'm not averse to having someone else do it. In fact, if they would guarantee a great job with the material I have, I'm all for it.

Have you had experience with them?
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

well just an update for everyone.

unfortunately, the fabric I chose was too thin and glue seeped through like a m%(&#$f20834er. So went with a black suede instead.

Still want to use the pattern though. Brainstorming uses for it that don't need to be glued together (shift/ebrake boots, patches to be sewn into seat covers in patterns, etc)

Lesson learned. Get a medium to heavy fabric.

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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

be careful with your door panels and suede....any stickyness will make that suede look like crap....
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

I would agree with others, I noticed I had less bleed spots when I sprayed...let it sit a few min then apply fabric as opposed to sprays and layind down fabric right away. but the good thing is if you mess up just redo it : )
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

When I got mine, I just found something I liked and shopped around for prices. Originally I went with a silk like material that almost looks like alligator skin but after 2 summers the glue was melting and the headliner was starting to sag off. I eventually went with a black microsurgery material that was a big thicker and held the glue better. It's been up for almost 3 years now and looking better than ever. I think I got it for like $5.50 a yard by 54". I ordered 3 yards and had enough left to DIY my own visor covers. I'm still working on those though because I took the stock mirrors out and added larger ones (mainly for my wife because she always uses them) That and I'm putting LED's in the visors also for lighting.
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

would you take of the fabric that comes with panel or just paste over it?
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

I'd take off the fabric if you didn't want to ruin it. Otherwise I'd use a spray adhesive and just glue over it. I mean, even still it's possible to clean with a steam cleaner but that's a bit much work to return back to stock. I only say that because I have the RS2 which has custom interiors as is with yellow/black fabric and I like the look.
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

oh alright thanks so it doesnt matter then lol thats good what is the best martial to use in your guys opion ?
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

I've seen just about everything get used. It depends on what you like. For my headliner for example. I tried a straight up fabric that had an alligator pattern to it, it looked good but started sagging because the adhesive didn't stick well. I then switched to a micro fiber fleece which is smooth and softer and adheres to the spray better.

Here's a link for good price on it h t t p: //w w w. o n l i n e f a b r i c s t o r e.net/fleece-fabric/black-fleece-fabric-. h t m ? u t m _ m e d i u m = s h o p p i n g e n g i n e & u t m _ s o u r c e = g o o g l e b a s e & c v s f a = 2 7 0 0 & c v s f e = 2 & c v s f h u = 3 7 3 1 3 3 3 7 3 5 & g c l i d = C J m z - c r h m L M C F Q O f 4 A o d w G s A R Q

Here's more colors and patterns... http: //w w w . o n l i n e f a b r i c s t o r e . n e t / s p e c i a l t y - s t o r e s / f a b r i c - l i n i n g - s t o r e / a p p a r e l - l i n i n g . h t m

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They are selling it in yards so a 3 foot by 58 inches section's running $5 a yard which isn't bad. My guess it you'd need just a single yard if you're just overlaying the stock fabric on the door. If you're a beginner to it you might want to get another yard extra just in case you make a mistake in measuring/cutting/gluing but it should be pretty straight forward..

The proper way is to take off the handle and window control, cover it, cut the holes out and replace the handle/control unit.

Depending on if you want a color or pattern you can shop around, just google fabric or even go to your local AC Moore or Michael's crafts stores.

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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

ah thanks man much help
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Re: Fabric Question for Headliner, door inserts

Highly suggest contact cement, the kind you brush on....also if your removing stock interior, i suggest you get 1/4" padding for the new fabric. That'll give the new stuff some fluff like stock....
Also, after doing my doors 3 times now, i suggest you don't. But some other door panels and do those. Also some ppl cut out the wrapped part, wrap that, then reattach it to the door panel. Sometimes its easier to get a better bond.....

There's more tips you can use depending on material and such.....
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