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post #161 of 166 Old 04-06-2017, 07:08 AM
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Man! That really sucks. Sad to hear it. I remember seeing this thread when I first joined & was curious to see how you would mod her. You did a great job! She went from a caterpillar to a butterfly

JPB posted a super cool open deck! Hopefully now you'll get the bB you've wanted.
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post #162 of 166 Old 04-20-2017, 02:02 AM Thread Starter
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Good news/bad news time

Good news: finally got an offer from the insurance company. I bought the car for about $600 in 2014, stock and in need of repairs. It's in decent shape technically now, and ok in the looks department as well, but the prospected resale value doesn't reflect the spendings (as with all modified cars). So over here I could maybe have managed to get about $2500 for it, when completed with Rotiform wheels etc etc.

After a lot of back and forth, I was offered $4700 for the car, and I get to keep it to take off all the parts I want to keep (to put on a new car or sell them) and then scrap the car myself. You get about $400 from the government when you scrap a car over here. So can't be anything other than pleased with this

Bad news: other than finding a stock Yaris Verso and begin the whole circle again (it's time to move on now), you don't get many cars like these over here. xBs have never been sold here, and only 7 of them have found their way to Norway through used imports. One of them was actually for sale just now, I was going to make an offer when I got the insurance money, but it had sadly been sold a few days earlier.

But anyway, cars imported from the US that are less than 30 years old (not only US, but anywhere that is not EU (european union) compliant, or eurospec to put it another way, can only be registered if they are 100% stock, and has to remain this way forever. And that's no fun! Even a set of different wheels, or a wrap can make the car non-road legal.. and JDM imports are even worse, you cannot register them at all unless they have been already registered and on the road in another EU country first. And the same rules for mods.

So the only way to get a road legal and modifyable toaster/fridge/box car is to find something that has been sold new officially in Europe, and the closest thing is probably a Nissan Cube. For two years they sold them in Germany and Italy (2009-2011).

So we'll see
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We are still an EU country at the time of writing this, so how about grabbing a bB from one of the UK's many JDM specialist dealers or via a private listing on eBay motors?
Our rules are pretty slack really, in that a car imported (from anywhere on the planet) can be registered in the UK following a UK MOT test, this usually only requiring a rear fog light (or two if that owner is a little obsessed about symmetry!) and that's as complex as it gets if the car is over ten years of age at the time of importation. For newer cars, an IVA (individual vehicle approval) test has to be carried out and for this, we must fit a speedometer that reads in MPH as well as in KM/H, must fit three-point seat belts where lap belts are fitted originally, so in the middle of the bB's front and rear seats, but removing the lap belts is acceptable as long as we then only ever carry four people in the car and the rear fog lamps are also needed for IVA, but where the MOT only requires there to be one or two of these, that their switch must indicate that they're on and that they work, the IVA requires that they be fed from the headlamp circuit and have EU-approved lenses.

So really, given that all 1st generation bBs are now old enough to swerve the IVA requirement, you could bring a UK MOT tested one which has, by default, achieved EU-wide type approval by being registered and MOT tested in the UK, then drive it onto the boat at Port o' Shields and re-register it when you get back home. Even France has been known to allow the registration of cars that were JDM-spec, but had been registered in the UK and as such, had become technically legal across the EU.

I still say that the Open Deck would be a wonderful business vehicle to promote what you do and I'm only twenty miles from the ferry port and am willing to help a fellow enthusiast in any way I can if it means getting that person into the right car!

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I totally understand your reasoning, but it's unfortunately not as easy as that. You do have some pretty broadminded rules for what can be road legal over there, especially the individual vehicle approval. I'm guessing this is what's used to register a road legal sofa with a pizza steering wheel?


Anyway, even if you could thread the needle and get a bB road legal here, you would anyway need to pay about $5000-$8000 in import taxes to do so.. It's not for nothing Norway is deemed one of the most expensive countries on earth. This is part of the story why..

Not that it had been of any interest for myself, but a 2017 base level Ford Mustang that cost about $25k in the US, cost about $100k here. Car is exactly the same, only the gov adds $75k in import and registration taxes.. and a V8 Mustang cost at least $50k more than that again in just taxes.

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I see, so no matter what you do, the government will take your money when you do it! In that sense, we're not such different countries.

The sofa is just one of many equally crazy vehicles that exist on UK roads, people have also attached car chassis and running gear to garden sheds, speedboats, skips and aircraft cockpits but the rules about that pizza steering wheel would be quite restrictive in that - if I understand our Construction & Use rules correctly - any such steering wheel must be based on a deep pan, rather than a thin crust, this way the pizza can comply with EU regulations regarding collision protection measures. Probably..


Good luck with your search for another car, just one further thought; when your car is subject to an insurance claim in Norway, and you then buy back [the car] for salvage value (common practice here, especially with older cars where even slight damage can cost more than the vehicle's value to repair), is it possible to repair the car and put it back into use? In the UK, a collision damaged car can be repaired, inspected by an insurance engineer and put back into use, depending upon the severity of that damage.

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Re: xB's euro cousin: Toyota Yaris Verso/FunCargo

hello , sorry to hear about your funkago!.... wanted to let you know that i have 2 of these .. one also died in same as your, was hitted by a mercedes vito from behind while standing still, was injured and sent to hospital, the vito hitted me in 60-70 km/t so the little verso did a good job saving ! anyway i dare to tell you that i had (still have) one of the ( kanskje den feteste?) verson in norway, i have trasferred many of the parts to the second one, but i have done pretty much to it i have many kits, parts etc stocked and every thing is imported from japan, i also work at Toyota , and have managed to buy special jdm parts, i have catalogs and everything also ( oem bodykits wheels tail lights etc)


...and the car would looved to have a new caring owner as my kids has grown up now and i have too many cars and projects. fant bare denne sida i farta ! ..skal se om jeg kan poste bilder i løpet av kort tid. i can send you more info also on whatsup. or pm
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