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#1 Old 11-30-2011, 02:50 AM
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Serpentine belt installation help

One of the tricky steps during the serpentine belt replacement on 1NZ-FE engine is moving the alternator to get the correct belt tension. Many installs ended with damaging the VVT Control Valve because it sits very close to the alternator. Extra care needs to be taken when working near the valve and its connector:



A simple mod that costs less than $2 makes the belt tightening much easier and risk free. All we need are the M8x1.25 bolt with a nut and a washer:



The alternator tensioner bracket has a hole with the nut welded to the back of it- that is where the bolt needs to be installed and tightened with the jam nut:



Now it can be used as the safe leverage point to move the alternator:



Good sources for metric fasteners are ACE Hardware and Do it Center stores.
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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

Perfect Victor and great pics of the tight location

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Damn, that is brilliant Victor! Gotta do the belts on the new box soon, gonna do this for sure!

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

Isn't it extra tricky to do a serpentine belt on our car since we do not use a serpentine belt..... Only kidding. Once again excellent advice and detailed photos from Victor.

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

LOL, you don't say. Especially since we don't have an alternator either. According to the tech literature it's a generator. And the belt: the fan and generator V–ribbed belt
Thanks guys. I'm gonna attack my belts soon, already got the genuine Mitsuboshi from the dealer. Thinking if i should change the water pump at the same time since i'm at 80K.

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Gates makes racing belts for our cars in blue

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They look real nice. I also thought about GatorBack – some people have good words about them. But decided to stick with the originals. Mitsuboshi lasted more than required and i only had to tighten it once.

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

I replaced the same belt just the other day before joining this forum (this tip sure would have been useful). I still took care of not damaging anything around there when trying to put tension on the belt. Since then when I use the AC, there is still some squeaking. So I might just end up doing this again... I just dread trying to get to the bottom bolt because the last time my arm got stuck between the radiator and the alternator. Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

Make sure you don't overtighten the belt because that will put more stress on the water pump and that's a real weak spot. If you just can twist the longest part of the belt (between alternator and main pulley) by hand 90 degrees but no more than that- that's tight enough. Lower quality belts will squeak even when they are tight.

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two thumbs up victor!

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

Thanks Eric, HFD are good people

Another thing that sometimes gets difficult is breaking the alternator pivot bolt loose. You only have to give less than one complete turn to be able to move the alternator but the bolt is extra tight (Bolt "B" in the factory diagram).
We need 14mm socket, ratchet and some extra leverage:



Now the job is much easier. A/C line is held out of the way with electrical tape or a zip tie:


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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

The Gates Racing Belts are very nice and they are a cool blue color, too.
I got the 2 of them. Sometimes on Amazon they sell them as used for a much lesser price. But they are not used, they are merely open boxed.

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Or the box is shelf worn and they cant sell them full price.
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This is a great write up if i get the guts to do it ill definitely keep this open.
and dang you must have the cleanest engine bay in the world!
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Used this when I did my belt! Work perfect!

I was having trouble getting it tight before doing this!

Great write up!

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

Dang Victor I wish I had read this cuz it cost me 78 bucks to replace the oil control valve but the water pump is still leeking so I guess I will be changing it next weekend. But once again thanks for all the help and tips bro I really do appreciate it.

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Man, sorry it had to happen to you. Good luck with the water pump, i may have that replaced in future and not too looking forward to it. I hope it still lasts though.

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thanks I will let you know how hard it is when I get done and if I find a trick or two I will let you know.

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Re: Serpentine belt installation help

I never did like tightening up alternators that you had to put leverage on to get the belt tight... On my truck its got a built in tensioning system... Where you tighten one bolt and that bolt you turn pours tension on the belt for you... Then you causally tighten your remaining bolts... I might have to come up with with a way of adapting one for use on the xb when I finally get one... I'll make a diy out of it... Lol

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