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06-13-2008, 09:28 PM
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#21 | | Registered User
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| Re: DF210's Installed W/ Pics
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Originally Posted by BXB  I waited 3 weeks to let the springs settle. |
A properly installed spring does not "settle". It will however sag overtime if it is not a quality spring.
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06-15-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jisu009 A properly installed spring does not "settle". It will however sag overtime if it is not a quality spring. | Then why does a car get lower over the first week after a new spring install? | 
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06-16-2008, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by seppuku27 Then why does a car get lower over the first week after a new spring install? | Either the springs were installed wrong or the spring are not quality springs. There are only a few "quality" spring manufatures out there.....When I say "quality" what I mean is they have the available capitol to purchase the VERY expensive machines that properly roll a spring. Alot of spring "manufactures" outsource their production to these companies and then relable the spring and sell it as their product.....which is fine and dandy, but often times you will not have the warrantee or support of the larger company.....The companies that dont have the proper equipment and still manufacture a sub-par spring are the ones I would be worried about and trust me, there are alot of them these days.
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06-16-2008, 06:27 PM
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So you are saying TRD springs aren't "quality" springs then? Because mine did get lower after a week or so. | |
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06-16-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seppuku27 So you are saying TRD springs aren't "quality" springs then? Because mine did get lower after a week or so. | Eibach manufactures the TRD springs to TRD specs. Eibach is the best manufacture of springs there is......
Who installed your springs?
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06-17-2008, 03:09 PM
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I did, so now this is were you say that I installed them wrong... | |
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06-17-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by seppuku27 I did, so now this is were you say that I installed them wrong... |
It's possible. How do you know they were any lower a week after you installed them? What dimension did you measure? | |
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06-18-2008, 09:52 AM
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I measured before and right after but never a week or so. It looks like it got a little lower. I'm not talking an inch or something huge. | |
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06-18-2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by seppuku27 I measured before and right after but never a week or so. It looks like it got a little lower. I'm not talking an inch or something huge. | Gotta get that data my friend....quantifiable data....
It's hard, real figures that we can start to make improvements on what we are starting with (xb2). We don't want to make judgements or decisions based off of "eyeballed it," "I think," etc. That is how misinformation is converted to "truth." Then all the sheep follow...... | |
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06-19-2008, 02:27 AM
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my trd springs "settled" a week after i installed them....and i'm an ase certified toyota tech. haha. | |
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06-19-2008, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pjkun my trd springs "settled" a week after i installed them....and i'm an ase certified toyota tech. haha. | How much did they settle? What did you measure? | |
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06-21-2008, 12:54 AM
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they settled about 3/4 of an inch. i measured a few spots like center of wheel to fender, ground to fender, rocker sill to ground, etc. i noticed that after a week after i installed them, my car started to dog trail to the right. so i threw it back on the alignment rack at work and measured and found they had lowered 3/4 of an inch from when i did the alignment last (after i installed the springs). so yeah. | |
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07-15-2008, 11:45 PM
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07-17-2008, 02:37 PM
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ok i vote we don't listen to jisu009 any more. First springs will settle no matter who makes them. think about it over time weight bearing down on the springs will change, same with leaf springs ask anyone who off roads, races or has an old muscle car. | |
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07-23-2008, 04:49 PM
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would you recommend TANABE NF210 or DF210? do you guys have side pictures of both. i like how the DF210 dropped. i've also seen TRD dropped. NOT that low but i bet the ride is more comfortable. i'm torn between the NF, DF, and TRD. please advise. have 1 week to decide. please don't say coils or bags. no money for it. hehe. thanks. btw, good job!!! | |
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07-23-2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sciongrl_xb08 would you recommend TANABE NF210 or DF210? do you guys have side pictures of both. i like how the DF210 dropped. i've also seen TRD dropped. NOT that low but i bet the ride is more comfortable. i'm torn between the NF, DF, and TRD. please advise. have 1 week to decide. please don't say coils or bags. no money for it. hehe. thanks. btw, good job!!! | Well it depends on how low you want to go. You probably won't be able to tell much of a difference in ride quality between those 3 so the biggest factor is how low you wanna go. If you drive in areas w/ inclines, bumps, dips, etc. you would want to go with the TRD's or NF210, both have about the same drop and cost about the same. Now if you can go lower than 1 1/2 inches I'd go DF210's or Tein S techs. I rolled Tein s techs for over a year before I got my coilovers. Hope that helps. | |
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07-23-2008, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron_Lion_Scion Well it depends on how low you want to go. You probably won't be able to tell much of a difference in ride quality between those 3 so the biggest factor is how low you wanna go. If you drive in areas w/ inclines, bumps, dips, etc. you would want to go with the TRD's or NF210, both have about the same drop and cost about the same. Now if you can go lower than 1 1/2 inches I'd go DF210's or Tein S techs. I rolled Tein s techs for over a year before I got my coilovers. Hope that helps. | thank you. looks like it will be the DF210 for me. i have the TRD 19" wheels that came with the XB. tires are 235/35/R19. if things don't work out. it will be up for sale very quickly. highendperformance.net is giving it for $170 on the DF and $175 on the NF OTD. is that a good deal? | |
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07-23-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sciongrl_xb08 thank you. looks like it will be the DF210 for me. i have the TRD 19" wheels that came with the XB. tires are 235/35/R19. if things don't work out. it will be up for sale very quickly. highendperformance.net is giving it for $170 on the DF and $175 on the NF OTD. is that a good deal? | Honestly I would wait till someone puts up a set for sale in the classifieds on here or other scion community sites. I usually see a set go for sale at least once a month on various sites. I actually have my set of Tein S techs I've been holding for someone but they might be up for sale if he falls through. You can score a much better deal on a used set of springs like around $100-$120 shipped which will save ya an easy $50. | |
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07-23-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron_Lion_Scion Honestly I would wait till someone puts up a set for sale in the classifieds on here or other scion community sites. I usually see a set go for sale at least once a month on various sites. I actually have my set of Tein S techs I've been holding for someone but they might be up for sale if he falls through. You can score a much better deal on a used set of springs like around $100-$120 shipped which will save ya an easy $50. | Thats for a 1st gen right? | |
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07-23-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by seppuku27 Thats for a 1st gen right? | Yeah my bad, I tend to default to 1st gen, lol. I think that Padanky has the DF210's on his 2nd gen, so he might be able to help w/ any questions. | |
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