[Pimpnit869]

Hello forum! Its oil changing time for the 08 xB! I wanted to see what everyone was running in there 08 xB (synthetic or conventional)? I was thinling of running semi synthetic. any thoughts?


Thanks Jay

[magicmechanic86]

synthetic is good oil but you have to be carful it has ways of finding the smallest spots and letting them leak. but it is rare. I have had this happen once before, but on a good note when i switched back it stoped. so give the syn, a chance its good stuff...

[dokutman]

dont forget , if your scion is new, first 2 oil changes should be free of charge at the dealership

[wg45678]

Dont' bother with semi-synthetic. You pay most of the cost of full synthetic and get virtually none of the benefit. Suggest watching specials (like Pep Boys or Checker) and buying full synthetic. Bought 5 Qts of at Checker for $0.99/qt after rebate. PepBoys is advertising 5Qts Pennzoil Synthetic and PureOne filter this week for $23.

[kev_xb]

i run full synthetic changed every 2-2.5k miles (i get my oil for free from work ) and I've got 17000 with a squeaky clean leak free engine... spend the lil extra and go synthetic... its worth it.

[WhiteNoise]

Originally Posted by kev_xb

i run full synthetic changed every 2-2.5k miles (i get my oil for free from work ) and I've got 17000 with a squeaky clean leak free engine... spend the lil extra and go synthetic... its worth it.

Aren't synthetics supposed to run longer between changes? I guess if the oil is free.

[Rocket_Sciontist]

Amsoil has a 25,000 and a new 35,000 mile or one year ,between changes oil out now!

[kev_xb]

yeah your supposed to be able to run my synthetic for 6000, but i get it for free and I use the lifts at work to do it... and I'm on the clock, and it certainly cant hurt to change your oil early... ideally when you change your oil you want it to look clear, like new oil... so the more frequently you change it the better. I guarantee you'll be alot better off in the long run if you change it before it needs it.... and i wouldn't recommend using 25k or 35k oil.... you should still change it every 3 months... wether you've hit the mileage or not...

[WhiteNoise]

Interesting opinion Kev. I still think changing it out that frequently, especially on a camry engine, is overkill. I am willing to bet that with regular oil changes I will still get close to 200k out of my xB. Well my son will cause as soon as he is of age its his.

[Rocket_Sciontist]

Yea, all that blow-by funk still goes in the oil. The sloppier the tolerances, the more contaminated the oil gets.
Let’s keep our little squirrels tight!

[kev_xb]

i wasn't saying every one should change their oil as frequently as i do, like i said i get it for free and i can do it on the clock, but you should change it every 3000 or 3 months, its alot better for your engine....

[jahfakin]

Originally Posted by kev_xb

yeah your supposed to be able to run my synthetic for 6000, but i get it for free and I use the lifts at work to do it... and I'm on the clock, and it certainly cant hurt to change your oil early... ideally when you change your oil you want it to look clear, like new oil... so the more frequently you change it the better. I guarantee you'll be alot better off in the long run if you change it before it needs it.... and i wouldn't recommend using 25k or 35k oil.... you should still change it every 3 months... wether you've hit the mileage or not...

......you can change your oil every 25K-35K miles, if the engine was designed with that in mind. My 99 BW Beetle has 170K on the orig engine and clutch, and it's still running. I change the oil every 10K, just like the manual says. But the VW uses a timing belt, and not a chain, so changing the oil every 10-15k is fine. Some cars (GM cars like Saturn I think....not too sure) requires frequent oil changes to prevent the timing chain from getting all sludged up. But this is not true with all engines that use a timing chain. The xB2 manual says to change the oil every 5K....so I'll change it when it's at least 5K (probably a little longer).

As for the whole "ideally when you change your oil you want it to look clear" is not true either. You can't determine the concentration of contaminates in used oil, just by looking at it. Not all forms of contaminates will discolor motor oil, take water for example. It needs to be sent out to a lab, for analysis. I've also read that a good Syn Oil is fine up to 10k-15K in these Toyota engines (based on an oil analysis). So yeah, changing you oil at 2500K is a waste.

My xB2 break in period is just about over. So I'll be switching to syn real soon (0w20). I've only used Mobil 1 full syn oil over the years, and been very happy. Not cheap, but it's considered the best on the market. Used 10w30 in GT mustang...100K at the time I sold the car, not a single engine related issue. 0w40 in winter or 5w40 in summer in the VW Beetle w/ 170k and still running on orig turbo, engine and clutch (syn tranny fluid).

[Rocket_Sciontist]

Originally Posted by jahfakin

I've only used Mobil 1 full syn oil over the years, and been very happy. Not cheap, but it's considered the best on the market.

I'll debate the "Best on the market" statement compared to Amsoil!

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf

Both are good , and both are expensive, but in the long run, are worth it!

[rosconey]

i used mobil 1 on my 06 corolla-wally world has 5qt bottles for 20 bucks-

i thing i do enjoy is a oil change,i cant stand the idea of some moron stripping my oil drain plug-im the only moron allowed to do that with my vehicle

[jahfakin]

Originally Posted by Rocket_Sciontist

I'll debate the "Best on the market" statement compared to Amsoil!

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g1971.pdf

Both are good , and both are expensive, but in the long run, are worth it!

yeah Amsoil is excellent stuff too, forgot about them. it's just hard to get, have to go through auth dealers. While the mobil stuff I can get at the local pep boys or autozone

Originally Posted by rosconey

i used mobil 1 on my 06 corolla-wally world has 5qt bottles for 20 bucks-

i thing i do enjoy is a oil change,i cant stand the idea of some moron stripping my oil drain plug-im the only moron allowed to do that with my vehicle

Pep boys did that to my VW a few years back. Stripped the drain plug on my aluminum oil pan....they denied responsibility and I had to get a new oil pan. since then, I do my own oil changes on that car. I used a Pela oil extractor to change the oil......no need to get under the car.


I don't think that works on Toyotas, only German cars.

[kev_xb]

first off...i wasn't saying if its not dirty then its all good to go... but you definitely don't want it to look dirty, and as i stated previously i get my oil for free and can change it on the clock, so it doesn't hurt to change mine before its due. and i was talking about 2nd gen xBs when i said it should be changed every 3k, if your using synthetic you could go 6k. i do work with this stuff every day. toyota says to change it every 5k because they want you at the dealer every 5k maintenance and they want to make the money on the oil change too, i would recommend every 3k if your not using full synthetic... but thats just my professional opinion...

oh...fyi anyone who wants amsoil, hit me up, they sponsor my race team and i can get you whatever you need...

[Rocket_Sciontist]

I also am a dealer of Amsoil! But I would limit to locals only.
Shipping would be a killer

[Invertalon]

I just did mine today at 9950mi, filled with M1 0W-20... Plan to do 5,000mi OCI's.

Very easy to do on this car!

[Andydeelight]

The Guy gets his oil for FREE and he gets PAID to change his own oil! If this was the case for me I would change it every other week. Just because I can

[seppuku27]

Originally Posted by Rocket_Sciontist

Amsoil has a 25,000 and a new 35,000 mile or one year ,between changes oil out now!

You would still have to change the oil filter at 3k to 5k miles anyways. Its still going to get dirty at the same rate.