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Old 01-07-2009, 12:06 AM   #41
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

I've heard that only the DC headers are legal in CA. I would like the Strup header if it was legal in CA
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:49 PM   #42
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

I doubt that the dc header is legal in CA. It removes the cat
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:02 AM   #43
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

Dc Has A Header For The Gen2???
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:32 PM   #44
 
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Dc Has A Header For The Gen2???
yeah i didnt know that.... so i wish i had a header so for shock value when i pop my hood.... great come up
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:31 PM   #45
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whats the dyno horsepower added.
5 whp according to Import Tuner.

2008 Scion xB RS 5 - 2.4L I4 - Import Tuner Magazine
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:49 PM   #46
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

yes but you also cant just add one product and expect to get full value for it. you have to add the exhaust, cold air and header for all to flow more freely. so even though yes it only gets 5hp, all together you are getting almost 20 more hp. just a thought
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:46 PM   #47
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

Amen, brother. I'm looking for 20whp but want to keep the scuba tank. So I went with a CAI, header, axle-back and NST UD pulley. That should net me 15-20whp. Since I'm old and now prefer an AT, I need that extra whp to keep up with the stock 5 speeds.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:50 AM   #48
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does this throw the CEL? i want one, but don't want to run a CEL eliminator or have the CEL come on. any info would be great! thanks
It's my understanding all after market headers generate a CEL. They remove one of the Cats and make the exhaust flow much more efficient which causes the computer to generate errors. CEL eliminators are not "bad" for your car, they just pull the sensor back from the access port a bit so the computer senses the same restriction on air flow as the normal manifold. the CEL eliminates only the error for the header and should still generate errors for other issues as normal.
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It's my understanding all after market headers generate a CEL. They remove one of the Cats and make the exhaust flow much more efficient which causes the computer to generate errors. CEL eliminators are not "bad" for your car, they just pull the sensor back from the access port a bit so the computer senses the same restriction on air flow as the normal manifold. the CEL eliminates only the error for the header and should still generate errors for other issues as normal.
While you are correct in attributing the CEL to the elimination of the Cat, it is not the increased air flow that is the problem. The secondary O2 sensor monitors the efficiency of the Cat by measuring the level of emissions present in the exhaust gases. When the cat is removed, the emission levels increase and the ECU triggers a CEL since it thinks the Cat is no longer doing its job (which it's not, it's not there!).

What the O2 simulators do is send a constant signal mimicking what the ECU would expect to see if the Cat was operating correctly. The CEL eliminators that space out the O2 sensor from the exhaust flow simply reduce the amount of gases seen by the O2 sensor and thus the level of emissions seen.

Removing a Cat is against FEDERAL emissions standards, which would make it illegal outside of California as well. The difference is that most states don't perform the types of emissions tests that would ever check for the presence of the cat.
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

I am looking in to the Strup header. Are you saying that if I space the O2 sensor out some that i wont generate a CEL? If all is well and the light being on is all I have to deal with I could remove it or just change it to green to go with the rest of my lighting and then my eye shouldn't be as distracted or drawn to a red light...
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

My CEL comes on and off with the weather, but I got a cheap eBay CEL Eliminator.
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How well does it work? Are you happy with it?
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

The header in sweet, I'll be getting the NolimitInd CEL eliminator when I get some money. I got a responce from him earlier today stating that he has yet to hear any issues with the CEL Eliminator he sells.
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

I have had my header and S pipe on the car for over 2 years now and have never had one issue with my CEL peice.

I did try the cheap one when I had my tC and had alot of issues with it. So I went to the new ones and never had another issue.
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Re: 2nd Gen Strup Header

hows the clearance with your bent styled Eliminator? Easy install, I don't remember there being a whole lot of room under there.
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