[commuterbox]

Anybody out there running on hid's on both low and high beams?! i only have hid low beams myself and ive been trying to figure out what to do to have both beams on hid without having two pairs of ballasts. I tried those Led's or SMD's whatever but they are not that bright. So pls can anyone give me suggestions on how to figure this out. I appreciate it guys.

[awinter]

You need to get the bizenon HID bulbs. One bulb that has both low/high beam (it's actually two bulbs in one).

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you need the bizenon HID ballast as well

[sdsnybny]

Originally Posted by awinter

You need to get the bizenon HID bulbs. One bulb that has both low/high beam (it's actually two bulbs in one).

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you need the bizenon HID ballast as well

That wont work he has Sonars (2 diff bulbs for Hi/Lo)
It can be done with two diff kits, you will have to make a harness set up for the high to switch on most set ups come made to switch on when in low beam.
Most likely just switch a wire in the supplied harness.

[gravebox]

i have sonars and have the same issue. can't just hookup the high beams to the normal power, causes the hid ballasts to go into a flicker.

soo.... i', about to dump the sonars for modified stockies. i got a set of some huge 3" bi-functional projectors so there's an actuator that moves the casper cut off plate up and down to allow low and high beam operation on the same HID bulb and system without having to have one of those bi-bulbs or the HID bulb with a halegon pairity or anything. i'll have a build threat on this in a few days i think for more detail.

[commuterbox]

cool man!!Thanks

[Waldo]

wat is the main differance between normal lamps and HIDs??

couldnt you get the better bulbs that use the existing fixture??

[gravebox]

HID bulbs produce much more light with much less energy. if you stick with normal halegon type lights, in order to get the same output, you have to use halegon bulbs that pull WAY more power, increasing chance of frying relays or worse, catching the vehicle on fire from overheating wires.

the difference atleast from what i can tell...:
-HID bulb = roughly 35-ish watt power useage and produces 3,000+ Lumens of light, 2,000-5,000hrs of life, slight color change over time of use and instantly burns out. less strain on the electrical system compared to stock and much broader visibility during night time and DOES NOT BLIND PEOPLE!-->when adjusted properly.

-stock Halegon = roughly 55-ish watt power useage and produces 700-ish Lumens of light, roughly the same life span, no color change but dims over it's life span to the point of useless'ness.

-Halegon bulbs comparable to HID = 75+ watt power useage, produces ALOT of heat, endangers electrical systems due to extra draw on most vehicles without modifieing the entire relay system.

[Waldo]

ah, I see.....so kinda like normal light bulbs compaired to LEDs.....ok ok....mm......so baisically its just good to have, and it looks sweet

[gravebox]

looks good, more visibility at night time, less cost over time, requires less power...

it's just plain better to have.

[Waldo]

whats the up front cost?? sry, dont have much time lately to look around

[gravebox]

initial setup = about 185 bucks for the initial system setup which is the pair of ballasts to power the lights properly, hi/low beam control units + bulbs, cables and hi/low beam control harness. H4 9003 DIGITAL BIXENON HID LIFE WARRANTY

after that... new set of bulbs *for that specific kit linked above* for that H4 bixenon setup is about 85 bucks. but, when properly installed, it probably wont be for 5-10 years before one of those bulbs go out. they last a LONG time. H4 9003 35W DIGITAL bixenon HID bulbs
you could probably call for just the bulbs without having to get the new harness and casper sheild motor for a lower price.

[Waldo]

thats not bad.....is it still round 185 for halos too?? (cause halos have two bulbs, one for high and one for normal lights)

[Shooter_XB]

Hey Gravebox, did you try that bi-xenon kit? How does that work for you, and how easy was it to install? I'm thinking of getting that kit myself.

[gravebox]

Originally Posted by Waldo

thats not bad.....is it still round 185 for halos too?? (cause halos have two bulbs, one for high and one for normal lights)

that's not inclueding a set of sonar headlights. the kit i linked above is meant for a stock headlight install. using a set of sonar light headlights require a kit meant for a 9006 light socket in most cases and require a second relay system in order to use the high beam reflectors otherwise you don't have high beam functions. this is why i prefer a bi-xenon setup that uses some sort of motorized or electromagnically controled actuator that moves the cut of plate or casper sheild up/down or back/forth on a single bulb system. it's much easier to maintain that way.

Originally Posted by Shooter_XB

Hey Gravebox, did you try that bi-xenon kit? How does that work for you, and how easy was it to install? I'm thinking of getting that kit myself.

i do have a bi-xenon setup, but it's not stock. i crafted my own headlights. BUT the H4 kit i linked above is the right way to go if you were to convert your stock headlights to HID with ease and wanted to keep full hi and low beam functions. works the same way my setup does and the results you would see would be somewhat close to these:

NOTE - i use projectors. using the H4 conversion kit will use the stock reflectors and will have a different light dispurtion zone but the amount of light should be roughly the same.

6000K bi-xenon Low Beam


6000K bi-xenon High Beam


EDIT - note that in the pics above, the gate infront of the vehicle is roughly 120 feet in distance. the trees behind the gate is roughly 500 feet in distance.

and know, my HID lighting system it's self *ballast, bulbs, highbeam switching harness* is from the same website that i linked for the H4 kit. my kit is just simply meant for a D2S style bulb socket, not H4. it's pretty much the same exact thing, it's just the bulb base is molded for a different socket.

[Shooter_XB]

Thanks Gravebox. I'd be using the kit you mentioned with the stock headlight housings. I'd use the 6000K like you used also.
I have a question: Does the headlight aim need to be re-adjusted once the HID kit is in place?

[gravebox]

depending on how they are aimed already after you bought it from your dealer, it may need a small adjustment but it's nothing to worry about.

[Whatupwiththatxb]

Hey gravebox you seem to know your stuff. Wanted to know if I have sonars and want to use HId's is there a way to change the bulbs from the harnest made for sonars and put HID bulbs instead or am I better of just using the stock headlight harnest and buying the hid kit and bulbs? I ask because i like the kit I have for my sonars and I think it looks cool. Thanks in advance.

[Waldo]

I know I'm not gravebox. Obviously. But I have sonars with HIDs.....now I was afraid that I might ruin the lights cause it says no HID bulb....but it doesn't matter. I'm runnin 12000 k HIDs.....the bulb size is originally T@@G....dunno if yours is the same but they work amazingly....so ya....I can tell you from experience that it works fine....

[Whatupwiththatxb]

Foo-shu... Appreciate the info. Do you know if anybody has a DYI on this process? I know a thing or two about electronics and stuff, put the sonar lights and wire the halos my self, but never done a swap on sonar bulbs to HID and don't want to ruin them you know what I'm saying. Thank you ones again.

Oh yea also forgot to see if any of you guys know where to buy the HID bulbs for a good price but also reliable. Peace.

[Waldo]

ok.....I'll answer your questions real quick.....its simply a plug and play thing....ya just gotta have room to mount the ballists....but ya. Real easy....ebay will have hid....but you gotta find wat kind of hid kit you need to fit your fixture....so look on your bulb....I used dashzracing.com and searched my bulb number.....and from there just copied the kit name and such to find it on ebay......should be like 60 bucks for a pair......give or take