HID - Bi-Xenon help

rcarmchl · 11-10-2009, 12:27 PM

Couple of questions...and i have searched but couldn't find what I was after....

I want HIDs, but all the places to get them - SHEESH - whats a quality source, what do you look for?

second, I have seen 2 types of bi-xenon - dual lamp and single - the singles physically move the bulb to make it project differently - is this gonna last?

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sdsnybny · 11-10-2009, 02:31 PM

The kits with two bulbs come 2 ways
1. one hid for the low beam and a halogen(low grade) for the high beam on 1 housing.
2. two hid bulbs on one housing ( with diff arc positions for high/low beams)

the ones you have linked to have a electromagnetic switch to move the bulb back and forth to position the arc for low/high

there is also a set that moves the shield back and forth to position the arc for low/high these are more reliable and there are many better sites to buy them from. $199 for a set is high

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rcarmchl · 11-10-2009, 03:07 PM

Thanks for the info steve...

one other question...which is the right size..the H4 you mention or the 9003/HB2 with a H4B 3 prong harness connector - that Gravebox shows in his "HID Knowledge base" thread?

sdsnybny · 11-10-2009, 11:00 PM

Our stock lights are H4's so a Bi-Xenon kit for that bulb in the color temp (kelvin) you want will work. the info at the bottom of this link for the H4 Bi-Xenon 6000k kit is clear and well put together.
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gravebox · 11-11-2009, 01:08 AM

out of opinion for bi-xenon setups, i'd rather use a setup that operates with an actuator that moves the capser plate with one single bulb. the actuator is an electro magnet, so the only movement base wear and tare is on the connecting arm that connects to the moveable casper plate. unless that electro magnet some how starts operating in an environment that's over 1,600 degrees F, then the longevity of actuator will outlast a dual mounted bulb or HID+Halegon setup. pay less for replacement bulbs and longer lasting parts

TheReaper · 11-11-2009, 03:43 AM

ok ? is anybody running HID's on the dual projector headlights and if so what size bulb did you get

gravebox · 11-11-2009, 03:55 AM

i run HIDs, bulb type is dependent on the bulb socket you have. if you have 9006 bulb sockets, you'll use 9006 socket based HID bulbs and so on. Sonars *single projector, high bem reflector* uses 9006 for projector and H3 for high beam reflector i think. slight changes on different versions of the sonars.

rcarmchl · 11-16-2009, 06:53 PM

OK, so I got my bi-xenon kit from hidextra.com...no instructions other than this link...

install

I remember reading in gravebox's that our rides don't need a relay, is that what the thing with the "controller" is...is it required on the install or will the factory system support it?

help please...

also, the diagram in the link shows to the left "connection to factory harness" it matches the plug on the back of the bulb so my guess it that plugs into the socket on the drivers side, but there isn't one for the passenger side. What do I do with that empty plug/harness on the the passenger side?

from the looks of it, it appears that this controller is required fro the bi-xenon bulb to work....so how do I orient the the bulbl in the headlight? it has a rounded sheild on it....

gravebox · 11-17-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarmchl

OK, so I got my bi-xenon kit from hidextra.com...no instructions other than this link...

install

I remember reading in gravebox's that our rides don't need a relay, is that what the thing with the "controller" is...is it required on the install or will the factory system support it?

help please...

also, the diagram in the link shows to the left "connection to factory harness" it matches the plug on the back of the bulb so my guess it that plugs into the socket on the drivers side, but there isn't one for the passenger side. What do I do with that empty plug/harness on the the passenger side?

from the looks of it, it appears that this controller is required fro the bi-xenon bulb to work....so how do I orient the the bulbl in the headlight? it has a rounded sheild on it....

the controller is the relay that controls the high/low beam operation safely on our H4 relay we already have. without the controller, it sends some of the grounded energy back to the ballast, causing flcikering and possible damage to the ballast.

the harness comes with 1 stock harness plug specificly because it's not needed to have two. the two stock plugs are there for easier access to the stock bulbs for less confusion. technically, those two cables do connect together at the other end so it's the same either way. the power wire going to the stock speakers in the doors of the vehicle are about the same gauge and see more power than what the headlight harness cables see, so it's not an issue. as for the unused plug, don't worry about it, make sure it stays away from the engine belts and you're fine.

the bulbs you got should be a two piece H4 style bulb. the back side of the cables to the bulbs, the bullbs should be able to twist lock out of the casper shield fixture that it's held to. once you pull the bulb out of it, you install the capser shield piece into the stock headlight housing, clamp it down and then install the bulb on the back of it and tiwst lock it in. without this casper shield unit, you wont have control over low/high beam operation. you'll just have high beams due to you not having a casper shield to block the lower light production for low beam operation thus blinding everyone.

DoWoRkJeRr · 11-17-2009, 02:11 PM

can u post a pic of the HIDs after u install them plz. im really tempted to buy these!

rcarmchl · 11-17-2009, 02:36 PM

will do...I got the 10k bulbs, should have them done on thursday!!!

along with a few other goodies!!!

gravebox · 11-17-2009, 06:08 PM

do know, anything over 8k in temp on the bulb color will begin to greatly reduce your visability. fog is pretty much your worst enemy.

rcarmchl · 11-17-2009, 06:12 PM

not too worried, we don't get a lot of fog in Memphis...but that's why ive got yellow fogs going in too...

rcarmchl · 11-18-2009, 10:06 PM

ok - install snag...got everything wired up nd I get power because the casper moves, but I get no light...I already tried swapping the connectors on the balaste per the kit...ny help out there? kind of need the old headlights!!!

sdsnybny · 11-18-2009, 10:51 PM

Check all connections, check fuse, check the grounds.
I have never seen a harness that grounded to the frame all of them hooked directly to pos/neg on battery, you might try hooking the main ground off the controller to the neg on the battery.

was your harness just like the pic/diag you posted?
it looks like the caspers would move if hooked up right even if you did not connect the bulbs?

are the caspers moving correctly.... when switch is on high beam they move down and away?? then on low the are surrounding half the bulb?

rcarmchl · 11-18-2009, 10:56 PM

all connections triple checked, the harness that came with it is not just like the picture, it doesn't have the grounds that come off the balast, otherwise it is the same

the instructions that came with suggested to plip[ the polarity at the balast, I have done that as well - but reguardless of the polarity at the blast the caspers are still functioning. I pulled the fuse and visual inspection seems ok. I don't have another one to put in it but if the fuse was the problem would the caspers still fire?

sdsnybny · 11-18-2009, 11:07 PM

Are the caspers functioning correctly or moving reverse of what the should be?. If your headlight column switch is on high are they moved away?? and I would try grounding directly to neg on battery for the relay

rcarmchl · 11-18-2009, 11:08 PM

EDIT - I have attached to the neg battery terminal, caspers appear to be working properly (to the best of my knowledge).

When I put the old bulbs in I get light, just fine.

Stupid question but does the engine have to be running for these to work?

in reguard to the caspers, when the hi beam in on the bulbs pull into themselves, does that seem right?

sdsnybny · 11-18-2009, 11:13 PM

ok so the casper shield doesn't move the bulb moves??

rcarmchl · 11-18-2009, 11:15 PM

yes, it recess back into the bulb base...this install is pretty idiot proof but I just don't get why they won't power up.