wilwood rear disc conversion

zbaker6 · 09-04-2007, 09:57 AM

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holy crap!! thats alot of damn money!

Yeah it is! I wonder how well the matrix rear brakes fit?

crxgames · 09-04-2007, 03:10 PM

Yes, it is. I'm trying to find the part numbers for the wildwood stuff those kits use, specifically the system they use for the emergency brake (Since it says it's a wilwood part). Hopefully, I can find them and it will end up coming out cheaper. I'd love to have some Endless Micro6's all around.

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Originally Posted by zbaker6

Yeah it is! I wonder how well the matrix rear brakes fit?

I've been wondering that too. I may pm the guy and try to get the information about what all is involved.

Rcurry23 · 09-15-2007, 10:39 PM

I'm a dealer for Wilwood, and I called them about that combination caliper Friday. They said it would be available soon. I'm plan on coming out with a brake conversion when I can get my hands on some.

crxgames · 09-15-2007, 10:47 PM

Hey, if you ever need anyone to test, let me know.

Rcurry23 · 10-15-2007, 11:00 AM

Ok first off, I know its not a Wilwood, but I decided to go ahead and get started on a basic drum to disc conversion. Then when I get this done, I am going to start on a Wilwood rear set-up to go with their Big Brake front kit. I went ahead and bought a rear assembly from hub to hub so I wouldn't have to have my xB out of commission for any length of time. Bare with the looks of the rotor, as it was also bought at a salvage yard for mock-up.

From this:

To this:

I now have the caliper brackets made and am waiting on the custom stainless flex lines to come in. All thats really left before testing is finishing up the parking brake cable. Let me know what you think.

sdsnybny · 10-15-2007, 11:46 AM

thats cool looks great. cant wait to see the end product
will your kit keep the ability to use hub spacers/camber?

there is another company out there doing a kit as well but is using re drilled rotors doesn't look as nice as your prefab. keep up the great work
http://www.clubxb.com/forums/f26/139...sc-conversion/
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/
If its like there corolla kit it uses the drum brakes as e-brakes and fits a rotor/drum combo over the shoes to keep the e-brake
http://www.phoenixtuning.com/parts.html

jonnywoop · 10-15-2007, 01:27 PM

We need a DIY Rcurry23 when you got this done! I've been looking into doing this for awhile now.

crxgames · 10-15-2007, 01:40 PM

A DIY would be nice. Wilwood is nice, but I'd like to go all the way and do an Endless setup.

Rcurry23 · 10-15-2007, 02:31 PM

sdsnybny, thanks for the links. As far as my kit. The caliper bracket alone will move the rear wheels out a little over 1/2", like the spacers I make. As far as adding camber, I don't know if I would try that or not. The caliper that I am using will have the parking brake as a part of the unit, not the drum style like the link you posted, so this unit should be lighter. Also, I have modified a rotor that has the same 4X100 pattern, so I don't have to swiss cheese it with another bolt pattern. When I get done, I plan on running it for about a month before putting it out on the market.
The kit will include, calipers (new/remanufacturered), pads, modified rotors (new), stainless flex lines and fittings, caliper brackets, and either new parking brake cables or adapters to use the stock parking brake cable.

I hope to be around the same amount, if not a little cheaper than that Phoenix kit, but have to get all the numbers on what I've done before saying for sure or not.

sdsnybny · 10-15-2007, 07:12 PM

sounds great, so if you used hub camber/spacers such as OTG they would not work? i relize this would tilt the whole setup inbound on the top like the drum.How would this adversly effect the rotor/caliper set up?

06TCMxB · 10-15-2007, 07:25 PM

dude i need to start watching this topic again, cuz i would love to get a rear disc conversion as well, since im getting the wilwood front brake kit soon.

Rcurry23 · 10-15-2007, 09:38 PM

I make those hub spacers as well. 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", and 3/4"

I don't make the camber shims at the moment. So I haven't tried that with this set-up.

But right now the caliper clears the shock by about 3/4", if or when the pads completely wear out the caliper will only be about 3/8" or less from the shock. Using the camber shims, it may rotate that assembly enough to rub after the pads wear for a while. I can't say for sure thou. And like I mentioned before, the caliper bracket that will be used will move the hubs out between 1/2" and 5/8", so I don't know how much more or how safe it would be to stack them. I myself am not fond of the stack method, but it has been used that way in the past so why not. Here are some more pictures I took tonight. This is just a temporary caliper bracket and one of my spacer being used for mock up. The finished caliper bracket will be one piece when its done.

ShortBus · 10-15-2007, 10:18 PM

Looks good. Didnt realize you were a master of many trades. One of the guys I sent to you loves your spacers. Now I just need to steal some of my money back from my wife.

Rcurry23 · 10-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Hey man, thanks for the referral on the spacers. I'm just getting started. Many more things to come. Maybe even a five lug conversion in the near future. But thats down the road. Right now focusing on this brake and another little project for the tC guys.

VIB · 10-16-2007, 05:13 AM

so basically as far as a write up is concerned , its not gunna happen cuz you wanna make money off this? just wondering if i should start fabbing my own shit now before i have to buy your stuff for thousands....

anyhow , i dont like the bbk like wilwood and endless cuz i would HAVE to run 17+ rims on my xb to clear those huge calipers. the toyota corrola rear disk was looking good cuz i can order some cross drilled rotors to match the front and still fit 15's. plus i hear bad news from wilwood brakes , like the rediculas stopping power that isnt needed with a wagon with 100hp. good pads all around a disk all around should be plenty of stopping power for me in this little boxcar.

Rcurry23 · 10-16-2007, 07:30 AM

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so basically as far as a write up is concerned , its not gunna happen cuz you wanna make money off this? just wondering if i should start fabbing my own shit now before i have to buy your stuff for thousands....

Well, thats were you may be in the wrong. Unlike most people that make a ridiculous amounts of money off of items they make, I don't! Like spacers per say, how many places can you go and get 3/4" or 20mm ones for under $50.00. If I wanted to get rich off this stuff I would. But there is no need. I'd rather sell a hundred of an item than one or two to make the same amount. Its probably the wrong way to do business, but I've been doing it like that for the last 15 years, so.....

And as far as the Wilwood kit, yes they may be overkill, but to each his own. Which by the way, if anyone is interested in the Wilwood front kits, let me know I may be able to help you out on those. For those who would like to save some $$$$.

AirecK · 10-16-2007, 07:52 AM

^hhmmmm price on front wilwood kit please..i am interested!!!

crxgames · 10-16-2007, 03:06 PM

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toybox777 · 10-16-2007, 04:16 PM

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^hhmmmm price on front wilwood kit please..i am interested!!!

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Rcurry23 · 10-17-2007, 02:20 PM

Well, I got the flexlines figured out and ordered, so they should be here in the next few days. Went ahead and ordered the new rotors as well. Had Toyota order a parking brake cable for me, to see if I can get the stock one to work. I'm gonna stick around the shop tonight and make the right size caliper brackets. Everything SHOULD be here by Friday! If so I'm gonna try to get it all installed and testing before the end of next week. I should also have some numbers figured out by then for pricing.