Scionpro: Major Air Ride Tech Innovation!!!

Scionpro · 12-05-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmcnuggett

My switch box has like 8 wires i think on a little panel with screws on the wires. Does that become extinct or does this some how hook to it cause that is where all the valves hook to the switch box i have now. Sorry for all the off topic questions, you can pm me if you want.

The digital controller will replace all that.

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Originally Posted by no_lines

scion pro i got a bodykit and i have stock struts and all i need is about 4 inch drop max and im not going into comp just shows i would just like to set my b on the ground and raise it for speed bumps would i need the 2500 dollar kit?

There is no cheap way out for air ride. Safety comes first. If you want the current Easystreet set up with re-designed struts and digital controller I can do it for 1999.00 this month. This is an all inclusive kit you buy nothing else. The HPS will be much more.

no_lines · 12-05-2007, 10:45 AM

when u say much more is the 2500 not the whole kit?
also is the easy street a coilover system to? i dont mind spending a lil more knowing that i wont have a camber problem cause ive heard horror stories about camber being wrong and not being able to get back at ride height

Scionpro · 12-05-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by no_lines

when u say much more is the 2500 not the whole kit?
also is the easy street a coilover system to? i dont mind spending a lil more knowing that i wont have a camber problem cause ive heard horror stories about camber being wrong and not being able to get back at ride height

The HPS 4 piece kit is 2495 to this you must add your valves dumps hose controller ect. so lets say we go with the new Easy street set up for plug-n-play for 1599...this will provide a complete kit needing nothing else. Easystreet is not a coil over..it is a bagged strut up front and a convoluted bag in the rear. The HPS shown here in this thread is the T-6 aluminum strut....the four piece kit as it is called includes the two front struts, two rear bags and two rear adjustable shocks...essentially making it a six piece kit if you want to be technical about it.

no_lines · 12-05-2007, 11:03 AM

well when u get an out the door price on everything in the hps let me know cause ive invested 5 grand just into the body kits gettin it molded on and im not gonna buy a bag kit if i cant set a height to wear if a bag goes out i wont lose my kit.
how much would hoses dumps and controller useually cost?

Scionpro · 12-05-2007, 11:05 AM

I can feel you there...wrecking a body kit is heart wrenching ....take it from someone who has been there done that! lol

no_lines · 12-05-2007, 11:07 AM

yea ive already put another 5 grand in just fixing what i screw up its like when u go on a roller coaster u know and go down the big drop and ur stomach goes in ur throat i just wanted to punch myself!

mrmcnuggett · 12-06-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by XBCreep

because all the cool kids are doing it!

It'll make you jump higher...

and chicks will dig you!

enough said!

I like to be cool, but don't have the money to keep buying 700 dollars worth of tires all the time.

no_lines · 12-09-2007, 11:43 AM

so with the hps i need about another 1000 maybe 1500 to make it a full kit?

<~totally air newbie

Scionpro · 12-09-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by no_lines

so with the hps i need about another 1000 maybe 1500 to make it a full kit?

<~totally air newbie

Providing that you are able to do the install your self...Yes. If you need to hire someone expect to pay about 500 bucks or better for a proper install.

no_lines · 12-13-2007, 11:45 AM

would this ride pro kit work with the struts from hps, Includes a 315 pump, RidePro digital control panel, wiring harness and solenoids, 5 gal. tank, 60' 1/4" airline, and fittings. This system offers front/back AND side/side control. for around 1200

Scionpro · 12-13-2007, 01:46 PM

You may combine the struts with any kit you like. We are making some suggested changes at this time on the competion series struts. After testing for a few months we feel the strut tube is 3 inches short for daily driving. The car rides great but rides low. Big curbs and pot holes would not be good. This is why I did not rush to market. Everything else is good. This is an easy fix for production.

no_lines · 12-13-2007, 04:19 PM

are the competion struts the only ones that have a coilover set up on them?

**ogerdgonz** · 12-14-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by no_lines

are the competion struts the only ones that have a coilover set up on them?

The struts are all coilover airbag systems the main difference is what the housings are made of. The lower priced unit is steel like everyone else.

EvoluScion · 12-14-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scionpro

You may combine the struts with any kit you like. We are making some suggested changes at this time on the competion series struts. After testing for a few months we feel the strut tube is 3 inches short for daily driving. The car rides great but rides low. Big curbs and pot holes would not be good. This is why I did not rush to market. Everything else is good. This is an easy fix for production.

Sorry for chiming in but I thought this kit was the best of both worlds with the bag adjustability and coilover adjustability. Maybe Im ignorant but don't you just correct the static height with the cooilover part and leave the dynamic height to the bags? Are you saying there is some tradeoff with this system like maybe the bag doesn't go up as high or doesn't go down as low? Or is it a tradeoff on the coilover part where that doesn't go as low or as high. Please explain and thanks in advance!

Scionpro · 12-14-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EvoluScion

Sorry for chiming in but I thought this kit was the best of both worlds with the bag adjustability and coilover adjustability. Maybe Im ignorant but don't you just correct the static height with the cooilover part and leave the dynamic height to the bags? Are you saying there is some tradeoff with this system like maybe the bag doesn't go up as high or doesn't go down as low? Or is it a tradeoff on the coilover part where that doesn't go as low or as high. Please explain and thanks in advance!

After speaking with HPS and sending measurements the response recieved addresses your questions. They will have to re-design the internals of the coil inside the bag, increase the length of the bag for greater rise, and lengthen the lower tube all proportionately to gain three inches more rise. So no there is not a trade off...once the re-design is complete you will be able to have about a 4-5 inch gap at full up position from lets say in my case a 17 inch wheel with low profile tire. Normal ride will provide approx 3 inch gap...all down would leave one inch with a non modified xB body 0 with a body kit....and even that can adjusted to zero on a stock body if you need it. So we will be able to get it up high and down low,still provide 36 point dampening,and have camber plates..no sacrafices. The biggest problem and the length of time this is taking is due to the fact that they do not have an xB to test fit product on in Switzerland. They have all the engineering plans but that only goes so far. Additionally these systems are designed for racing with tight tolerances,very little travel and an overall low ride on vehicles that do not generally drive on the street. We are looking for a showy type set up as well as performance. They got it now.

**ogerdgonz** · 12-14-2007, 11:33 AM

It is the best of both worlds....
Look at this photo:

First thing you see is your typical strut that has an air bag sleeve on it. You will then notice your coil over section that sets the desired height if fully aired out or a bag fails and driveable height. Your choice.

So it has both ways to adjust the prototypes are to low. I heard that you can get the bottom of the front bumper as high as the top of rear bumper if you lift the front only. (I think that was it.)

So keep an eye on this one.

BKXB · 12-14-2007, 11:50 AM

hmm...i just might need to wait on my suspension purchase then... cant wait to see it.

no_lines · 12-17-2007, 10:22 AM

whats the price difference between the aluminum struts and the steel struts? do the steel strut still have the coil over?

BootBoi · 12-17-2007, 10:28 AM

Here you go

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Originally Posted by Scionpro

Sorry to confuse anyone. This is a lesser system that HPS offers. They offer this as what they call a premium system while the one we have been discussing is the competition series. With a price difference of 1000 bucks from the comp. series it is a better system than currently available in the US from the competitors.It is a very good value with excellent design and performance. No matter how you slice it a good air system will run about 4,000 complete.

no_lines · 12-17-2007, 11:15 AM

lol opps forgot about that, but is the lesser one still a coil over?

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Originally Posted by Scionpro

Confirmed one year warranty on the parts for defects or failure due to workmanship. The first kits will arrive in mid Jan. I will take orders now. 2,495 plus shipping in the continental U.S. for the four piece set up average 60 dollars. Hawaii add 30 dollars to shipping flat rate Fed Ex. Just fronts are only 200 less so the four piece is a better deal. They have a 1/4 size nipple. I will supply the adapter to 1/2 the U.S. standard at no charge with your kit. I can also offer a self adjusting steel bodied set up called the premium class for 1395 plus shipping for the four piece set. It does not have the camber plate on top.

what would self adjusting mean on the steal bodied?
also these problems your haveing on the competion struts are the steel struts having the same ones/ also are they gettin fixed cause i think ive changed my mind about gettin aluminum cause the price and i dont need all the bells and whistle all i need now is 3 3/4 drop and i dont think the steel will rust out for a while.

also have u ever heard of the ride pro air kit?