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Old 07-25-2008, 10:50 PM   #1
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Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Finally decided to get the TRD rear sway bar for my 06 box. I got it Thursday and after looking at it and to make sure that I had all of the tools for this, I could do it. Well I started after dinner and in about 1 hour I got it on. I didn't realize how heavy it was. Rides real good. Just about the way that I was hoping for. Tomorrow I am going to play in traffic and see how it does handle. I will let you know!
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:22 PM   #2
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Glad to hear ya upgraded, but really, and hour to put it on? lol.

What I noticed with a rear sway bar, is that if your lowered as well, you're car will want to push in high speed corners.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:31 PM   #3
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

yeah I noticed tha same thang when I installed mine
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:55 PM   #4
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

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What I noticed with a rear sway bar, is that if your lowered as well, you're car will want to push in high speed corners.
What do you mean by "push"?
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:05 AM   #5
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Ok, let me set the scene for ya...

Lets say your hauling ass down a on ramp, and its one of those fun 3/4 loop ones, got the nice banking on them, and usually a speed limit of 25 or 30mph.... Now, picture your self using your knee to keep your body from sliding towards the door by pressing your knee on the door. And then you look down at your speedo and your doing oh, 50mph on a ramp that's recommending 25mph or 30mph.... As your turning into it, its doing fine. Holding tight on the white line, until you get close to the end of the ramp...

You'll then notice the front end wanting to push (or keep turning in hard) as your reaching the end of the turn. Shorter turns don't do it as much, and if it does, its not very noticeable. But on hard 90degree turns, or 3/4 loop ramps, you'll feel it if you're pushing the car.

Its not to bad on the sharp 90 degree turns. Basically you hone a new driving skill with a little practice. Basically its like drifting, but with out being out of control. You just gotta be gentle on the steering correction. Just because you feel it turning in harder all of a sudden, doesn't mean you have to jerk the wheel back. Just a nice slight adjustment, no more than moving the steering wheel 1" to 2"s slowly.
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Ahhh...thats cool...Thanks for the explanitation...it all makes sense now.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:46 AM   #7
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

No problem.... I set it up kinda Twilight Zone style to make it fun
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

push is when the car wants to keep going straight when your turning the wheel. when the back end of the car feels like it's getting lose thats oversteer.
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

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push is when the car wants to keep going straight when your turning the wheel.
That's understeer.

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I didn't bother reading 859's post so I didn't know why you stated that. Push != oversteer, push = understeer. Rick is correct.

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That's understeer.

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I didn't bother reading 859's post so I didn't know why you stated that. Push != oversteer, push = understeer. Rick is correct.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:09 AM   #11
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

My box came with the TRD rear sway bar already on, so I don't really have anything to compare it to, as far as the box. I think it does look cool though
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Well took it out and love the feel of the whole box now. NICE and TIGHT. After all, that is the way we like it. Less roll on the curves.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:08 PM   #13
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

I noticed the oversteer kicking in later on when going fast through the curve. Got used to it now- i know when to expect it. Is upgrading the front sway going to change things and how? I only have rear Progress now.

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:41 PM   #14
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

adding a front bar will make it understeer more. just upgrade the bushings
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

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adding a front bar will make it understeer more. just upgrade the bushings
Cool, thank you!
Found a very informative page here: Guide to oversteer
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Anyone have install instructions? Bought mine used and don't have pics of how the brackets go on. Thanks!
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:46 AM   #17
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

I was thinking of getting one too.
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:08 PM   #18
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Nice... I wish mine handled well again.
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

This will be our next mod!
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Re: Installed TRD rear sway Bar today!

Mine came with already installed..I saw the price on the original invoice though and I have to say, there are a few other options I probably would have went with first. At least I can say I have it though..
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