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Old 03-14-2009, 07:51 PM   #41
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

they are initially shorter.. like get the big drop nitro shocks and their way shorter than stock shock and will welp the drop even with bags.. orr Remount the shock locations
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:54 PM   #42
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

are you talking about shocks or struts? the problem im facing is for the front. lol
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:58 PM   #43
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are you talking about shocks or struts? the problem im facing is for the front. lol
what are you running up front.
what have you done so far?
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

thenn.. relocate the bag cups.. raise the strut towers to lower the car more up front

i am basing this off of basic minitruck bagging btw..

but this thread originally wanted shorter shocks so what was my first post about haha

like.. if you raise the actual area where the struts bolt to up an inch you are actually lowering the car by an inch, and the opposite when you have a spacer inbetween the top of the strut and where the struts bolt to.

its like doing a Body drop on a frame'less car.. but it is hard to do it right, cutting, welding, measuring and then you face the fact that if you go too high up.. it might hit other things in the way.

this way of doing it is a good way to lower a car with out losing the stock ride of the car and not touching much of the suspension.

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Old 03-26-2009, 02:04 PM   #45
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

I picked up a set of Monroe air shocks for the rear on Sunday, and they lower the rear about another half inch when aired out compared to the stock shocks, but it doesn't get as high anymore My friend raised his front strut tower like 2 or 3 inches and he flipped the top strut mount so he can get a little lower, but he kept blowing his front air bags so he now just has the rear bagged up. In the rear he isn't running any shocks at all and cut the rear end up so he could lay lower. Heres some pics of how low he used to get:







and heres a pic of the raised strut tower:

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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

^ I run mine flipped too. You have to trim down all the bolts in the tower to keep from blowing bags. I learned that one the hard way as well.
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^yeap. Cody is correct. When we were taking his bag off, it was like only 1/4" of a screw sticking out that destroyed it. LOW CLEARANCE! lol.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:05 PM   #48
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

Hmmm, interesting. Unless I run big wheels I don't think I will be cutting up the towers. or until I cut up more stuff, cause the car is sitting on the ground as it is.
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^ I run mine flipped too. You have to trim down all the bolts in the tower to keep from blowing bags. I learned that one the hard way as well.
Why didn't you flip the bolts around??? That's what my friend did. I think his bags kept blowing from the tower being too skinny or something like that.
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I picked up a set of Monroe air shocks for the rear on Sunday, and they lower the rear about another half inch when aired out compared to the stock shocks, but it doesn't get as high anymore My friend raised his front strut tower like 2 or 3 inches and he flipped the top strut mount so he can get a little lower, but he kept blowing his front air bags so he now just has the rear bagged up. In the rear he isn't running any shocks at all and cut the rear end up so he could lay lower. Heres some pics of how low he used to get:







and heres a pic of the raised strut tower:

hey bro do u have a model # ?
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

The model # for the Monroe air shocks is MA815.

Here's a link for a set on ebay:

eBay Motors: 2 Monroe Maxair Shocks MA815 2002 Ford Crown Victoria (item 310131383597 end time Apr-24-09 10:04:45 PDT)
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The model # for the Monroe air shocks is MA815.

Here's a link for a set on ebay:

eBay Motors: 2 Monroe Maxair Shocks MA815 2002 Ford Crown Victoria (item 310131383597 end time Apr-24-09 10:04:45 PDT)
Nice man thanks. missed the deal, ill find another pair tho. How does the install work for those shocks? Direct bolt in? and then just run lines to your tank?
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

Yeah, the shock just bolt right up. Once the air shock were on, I just filled them to about 70psi using a schrader valve. You can hook it up to your tank or to some valves, but I didn't. I'm just using them as shocks to keep the ride smooth .
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Nice man. Huge thanks. Im going to go that route for sure.
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

bringing this back to life: people going from the stock rear struts to the 5867's, how big of a difference did you see in drop? i dont care about lift at all as long as it clears the tire when driving.

long shot, but anybody have any ideas to lowering the front with chassistech front end?
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Re: i need a shock shorter than a 5870

What rear bag brackets are you running? With my 17" wheels with monroe shocks, my swing arm is completely collapsed as it will go without removing it and doing a custom 4 link or something. My xA is the lowest it's going to get with my 17"s without doing away with the whole rear swing arm. So unless you have a custom rear swing arm or bigger wheels than 17" I'm not sure why the 5870s do not fit for you..?
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bringing this back to life: people going from the stock rear struts to the 5867's, how big of a difference did you see in drop? i dont care about lift at all as long as it clears the tire when driving.

long shot, but anybody have any ideas to lowering the front with chassistech front end?

Thats the shock im currently testing.. I realized that monroe sensa track in general isnt a good choice for air ride at all because of the variable rate control design. Most peoples normal ride settings are at low pressure which means it puts the shock at its stiffer position.. They seem to fight each other.
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Thats the shock im currently testing.. I realized that monroe sensa track in general isnt a good choice for air ride at all because of the variable rate control design. Most peoples normal ride settings are at low pressure which means it puts the shock at its stiffer position.. They seem to fight each other.
I don't know much about the variable rate control, but I do remember having the best ride quality with those sensa tracks both as the rear shocks and as the front struts on my last xB with the UA bag setup. I also didn't rub up front like I do now with the Easy Street struts
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