[bBxdjsiryan]

So i was thinking.. since i am cheap and broke, i cant afford a full coilovers and i really want to slam my toaster. right now i have eibach sportline and stock struts. so i was thinking of just cutting a coil in the front and half a coil in the rear. and buy tokico blues... would that be ok?

[rton20s]

Don't do it. I will never support a suspension hack. If you really want to get lower in the front you can get a replacement strut for an Echo. That will drop you another 1/2". If you can find performance Echo struts, they should provide the same drop.

In the rear, you are kind of out of luck. Or you could contact a company like K Sport who will sell each component individually. Then you could pick up the rear adjuster seats and coils without the added expense of rear dampers or anything else for the front.

[bBxdjsiryan]

the front fits perfectly from an echo? wow i never knew that. so your talking about toyota echo right? haha

[859Toaster]

We've had this debate before.... Do not cut springs.... Some will say you'll be fine, but i've seen what happens to springs first hand when they are cut. Its not pretty.

[bBxdjsiryan]

so it that the only way to slam your car without buying coilovers? and still run ok

[2bluexb]

i got echo front shocks and they fit perfect with the minor detail tehre is a line that clips onto the strut and it doesnt on the echo nothing a zip tie cant fix

[bBxdjsiryan]

Originally Posted by 859Toaster

We've had this debate before.... Do not cut springs.... Some will say you'll be fine, but i've seen what happens to springs first hand when they are cut. Its not pretty.

oh ok.. too bad our cars never came with just the coilover not full. when i bought my car before i've always thought ground control would have it but nope..

[859Toaster]

ground controls are crap anyways. Im glad they don't make them for scion.

[bBxdjsiryan]

Originally Posted by 859Toaster

ground controls are crap anyways. Im glad they don't make them for scion.

hahaha there aaiiiiite .. i had them on my integra before and my friend had it in his s2k.. they were alrite.. i was just hoping they had it so i could use something for now and slam my car.

haha omg they do have it !.. dang there expensive

Ground Control Suspension Systems

[awinter]

Don't do it! Cutting coils is a costly shortcut. I did this when I first got into tuning because that's what my friends suggested and I didn't know any better at the time. You will not only trash your OEM struts/shocks but most of the connected suspension components as well. You will end up spending more than the cost of the coilovers on repairs.

Aside from that, it's extremely dangerous to run with cut coils. I had mine fall out, luckily, not at freeway speeds.

So your plan should be to think out what exact set-up you want to run and start saving/budgeting unitl you can afford them. You will be glad that you did once you get them.

[shortbus_8]

CUT THEM BAD BOYS

[bBxdjsiryan]

Originally Posted by shortbus_8

CUT THEM BAD BOYS

hahahaha

[gothbox]

once again I will trow my 2cents in just b/c.

I have been running on cut stock springs on one of my xBs since 04, I have put over 80,000 miles on them. I HAVE swapped out to the echo struts and shorter shocks out back. To solve the spring falling out prob, or to prevent it, I had the rear springs tack welded in, as well as the front.
The ride is not bad at all, the back rides way better the stock. The front still bottoms out every now and then on big dips at highway speeds.

Do I recommend it? no. .
can it be done in a safer manner then most think, and have seen/heard of stories? I say yes. I too have heard of stories of probs, and seen how some of the Hondas, ride like crap etc. Mine does not, period.
But back in late 04 there were not a lot of options on springs, so I did what I wanted to do to get low, and was the lowest in my area for a LONG time, till a guy did air

and here is how it sits.


And there is my 2cents on the subject.

[859Toaster]

Sorry sir we don't accept canadian money here. So take your 2 cents back to where it comes from!



I kid I kid....

[SAKURA]

ryan, i had these but never installed them. i ended up giving it to thegoldmember. he probably used some parts to do work.

not sure of quality. might wanna ask typex, he maybe running these. not sure thou. btw, anyone?

Racingworks.com - Dropzone Coilovers Conversion Kit with Springs 2004-2006 Scion xB

[Udream69]

Ive got the dropzone. I have the back installed, but with the stock shocks I can only get the 1.5 drop. If I do new lower shocks I could go lower. I still need to do my fronts. Thats a project for this summer.

[bBxdjsiryan]

Originally Posted by gothbox

once again I will trow my 2cents in just b/c.

I have been running on cut stock springs on one of my xBs since 04, I have put over 80,000 miles on them. I HAVE swapped out to the echo struts and shorter shocks out back. To solve the spring falling out prob, or to prevent it, I had the rear springs tack welded in, as well as the front.
The ride is not bad at all, the back rides way better the stock. The front still bottoms out every now and then on big dips at highway speeds.

Do I recommend it? no. .
can it be done in a safer manner then most think, and have seen/heard of stories? I say yes. I too have heard of stories of probs, and seen how some of the Hondas, ride like crap etc. Mine does not, period.
But back in late 04 there were not a lot of options on springs, so I did what I wanted to do to get low, and was the lowest in my area for a LONG time, till a guy did air

and here is how it sits.


And there is my 2cents on the subject.

wow thats pretty interesting.. you really did save a lot of money hgahaha

i had a lot of ppl telling me with better struts it will be ok, but idk im still debating. its a big decision haha

Originally Posted by SAKURA

ryan, i had these but never installed them. i ended up giving it to thegoldmember. he probably used some parts to do work.

not sure of quality. might wanna ask typex, he maybe running these. not sure thou. btw, anyone?

Racingworks.com - Dropzone Coilovers Conversion Kit with Springs 2004-2006 Scion xB

thanks erik.. i didnt even know they make those. when i got my car before i searched everywhere for just the coilover it self but i never found one so i gave up already.. thanks for the info

Originally Posted by Udream69

Ive got the dropzone. I have the back installed, but with the stock shocks I can only get the 1.5 drop. If I do new lower shocks I could go lower. I still need to do my fronts. Thats a project for this summer.

so hows the ride? wow only 1.5? haha so can i go lower than that?

so if i do get this what else are good short struts and shocks that would fit our car?

[Udream69]

I guess like any other spring. To me its just the same as it was with the stock springs but little tighter.

Im thinking about pulling them and just running a rear bag setup.

[no_lines]

i know a guy who cut his lowering springs an ended up loosing both going down the highway lmao

if u think that red box you should c how much of the springs he cut off of his black box lmao

Originally Posted by no_lines

i know a guy who cut his lowering springs an ended up loosing both going down the highway lmao

if u think that red box you should c how much of the springs he cut off of his black box lmao

i ment if u think that red box is low you should c how much of the springs he cut off of his black box lmao

[universoul]

Originally Posted by rton20s

Don't do it. I will never support a suspension hack. If you really want to get lower in the front you can get a replacement strut for an Echo. That will drop you another 1/2". If you can find performance Echo struts, they should provide the same drop.

In the rear, you are kind of out of luck. Or you could contact a company like K Sport who will sell each component individually. Then you could pick up the rear adjuster seats and coils without the added expense of rear dampers or anything else for the front.

steve from scionpro was tellin me that rear echo struts will provide an extra 2" drop..