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Old 10-15-2007, 09:08 AM   #21
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

Damn that there sucks T.T. -- Mine make some noise but usaully quit after they warm up a lttle.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:05 AM   #22
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

I have been a nice guy so far and have not posted much about this issue. They have gotten me to the point that now I really do not care about tarnishing their image. I am not the only one that has this rattle issue. In our local Scinergy club there are at least 3 other cars (that I am aware of)that have the same issue to some degree.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:36 AM   #23
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There is no reason for you to slot the lower holes if you have the camber plates. This specific DIY was for those that didn't want to spend money or couldn't for some reason use cmaber plates.

As for what bolts I used, I used the stock bolts myself. Camber bolts would have been a waste of money and time. I had a set lying on the ground from a previous attempt to fix my camber issue.

At this point in time I'm waiting on Scionpro to get the low down on the new front HPS struts. I wannt get them for several different reasons but the main one being I've had nothing but constant headaches with the easystreet struts.
my goal is to achieve abnormal negative camber when full down. not 0 camber.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM   #24
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

IC lol, hmmmm, most of the guys I run with that have camber plates can achieve negative camber up front easily with the plates. wierd.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:33 PM   #25
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

Ted do they rattle all the time or just when there are cold?
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:45 PM   #26
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Ted do they rattle all the time or just when there are cold?
All the time..tho they rattle more when cold. It is most noticable at low speeds.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:53 PM   #27
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Huh I wonder if I got a fluke set then? Strange.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:31 PM   #28
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IC lol, hmmmm, most of the guys I run with that have camber plates can achieve negative camber up front easily with the plates. wierd.
basically my ultimate goal is for these to tuck to the original fender:

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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

how much camber can you achieve with the slotting of the bolt holes??
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

I only got about 1-2 degrees of adjustment, then again it's just a guesstimate. It's enough to get rid of my camber problem, but now I got some crazy noises and the tires make a noise like a bad wheel bearing. I'm just going to bite the bullet and get some camber plates after this holiday season. I was going to get the HPS front struts but it's way to rich for my blood.
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.....but now I got some crazy noises and the tires make a noise like a bad wheel bearing...
Slotting of the lower mounting of the struts to gain adjustment should not induce any odd noises. Essentially you have tipped the mounting the same as a camber adjusting bolt would which imparts no odd noise. As long as the bolts are tight and the camber is not shifting around (struts rattling around at the mounting) there should be no unusual noise. Look around and find the problem that is making the noise. Camber plates should not stop any odd noises like you describe. Extreme camber might make an odd tire noise as any way out of spec alignment adjustment might...but from your description you are not way out of spec. If you have a failing wheel bearing you need to figure it out before the wheel falls off the car. Extreme camber could possibly cause noise from the CV axles. You are close to factory camber specs aren't you?? Toe-in is in spec??
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:55 PM   #32
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

Yeah, you're right. lol
I work in a shop so I've already checked the basics and as much as I don't want to admit it. . .
1. I know the spindle is rubbing against the strut. I see the rubbing but to fix that problem would require me to grind down the spindle which I don't want to do. I have all the easystreet noises that everone before me had, the rattles and clunks. lol I do know the last time I tried to adjust the camber the noises went away. I think moving things around again might have brought them back. I'm just too lazy to fix it and I'm being a whiny SOB. lol
2. My tires always made noise before, just not as loud and it only happens when I'm going 40+mph. I've already checked and the only thing that is going bad are the stabilizer bar linkages. Which I think are actually causing a problem, the front end feels like it's shaking when I'm moving from a stop at a low ride hieght. I was thinking about going to camber plates for a more exact camber adjustment, not to fix the noise. However if my guess on the tires are correct then I'll at least decrease the noise level. lol
3. As far as the toe spec, I had it aligned to factory specs. I think the tires are making all the noise. I will know in a few days when I go back to stock steelies.

I'm just complaining cause I've never had to go back and redo anything on the car as much as the front struts. Even my stereo which has been changed out a few times along with wiring harnesses seems like it was less of a hassle. When it comes to wiring I hate it, minus the feeling that you get when you finish the job.
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

anyone know where i can pick up some camber plates? it seems like the easier and safer way to go about it
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Yeah, you're right. lol
I work in a shop so I've already checked the basics and as much as I don't want to admit it. . .
......when you finish the job.
Cool, glad you are aware.....I always answer assuming the poster has limited knowledge. I saw a post recently of a broken front sway bar....might be worthy of close inspection from time to time, especially on our extremely lowered (bagged) rides. The pics appeared that perhaps is was overstressed at the point where it can hit the front rail. Crunched bushings might be indicitive of other problems in the area as well.

Easy Street recently (2 weeks ago) promised me that they had found the problem with the clunky struts. It seems that a new upper strut mount plate is in the works that should quiet our noisy friends I will not hold me breath as I have been told the fix is within weeks 4-5 times over the last 9 months:/ Perhaps this time the promises will be upheld and no longer will we have to clunk and rattle along.

Another thing that just crossed my mind worthy of mention. For those that do not know, DO NOT operate your engine with the car slammed all the way down. The power steering belt actually rubs when the bags are fully deflated eventually causing belt failure.

Good luck in your pursuit of quiet tastefull camber
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Cool, glad you are aware.....I always answer assuming the poster has limited knowledge. I saw a post recently of a broken front sway bar....might be worthy of close inspection from time to time, especially on our extremely lowered (bagged) rides. The pics appeared that perhaps is was overstressed at the point where it can hit the front rail. Crunched bushings might be indicitive of other problems in the area as well.

Easy Street recently (2 weeks ago) promised me that they had found the problem with the clunky struts. It seems that a new upper strut mount plate is in the works that should quiet our noisy friends I will not hold me breath as I have been told the fix is within weeks 4-5 times over the last 9 months:/ Perhaps this time the promises will be upheld and no longer will we have to clunk and rattle along.

Another thing that just crossed my mind worthy of mention. For those that do not know, DO NOT operate your engine with the car slammed all the way down. The power steering belt actually rubs when the bags are fully deflated eventually causing belt failure.

Good luck in your pursuit of quiet tastefull camber
whats power steering? I dont have it.
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I am sure you Randode, are aware of the belt interference issue when in the weeds
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I am sure you Randode, are aware of the belt interference issue when in the weeds
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:43 PM   #38
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Re: Easy Street Easy Camber Fix

The "clunk" noise that the EasyStreet front setup has is going to be a thing of the past...I spoke to them at SEMA and they have redone the top bag mount on the strut and it should be available soon. They will ship with the new kits and they said that they will offer a kit to update the older struts for people like me that have them.

Check out the picture below (disregard the Dodge placard, that item was to the left):

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Cool Beans. That is what I was told about 4-6 weeks ago. It will be nice to be rid of the clunk.
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Hell, I'll believe it when it's on the car and the noises stopped. lol too bad they didn't say anything about the camber issue. I think they need to make a camber plate that reduces noise and fixes camber. and to think I was so excited for the HPS front bags and they are really nice but hell I can't afford to put struts on that cost almost 2g's . . . lol

I didn't know about the rubbing p/s belt thing. I'll be sure to raise it up. I'm more or less worried cause sometimes I ride real low, sucky. I've checked my front end out several times in the last few months, and currently the only thing I know I will need soon are the stabilizer bar linkages. . . BTW not to threadjack but can someone get me a post/link or part number for the energy suspension part I"m supposed to use. I checked the SL thread and after about 5 pages of reading I was still at a loss as too what I was supposed to get.

enough with the thread jacking, it's almost time to put my steelies back on for the winter!
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