Done with the AIR install

EZBAKED · 02-26-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by westoni

EZ that manifold idea looks great. I've always wanted a company to create some sort of piece that would allow you to add your valves without all the excess nipples and tee's. Nice job!

oh and any plans to sell these in the future??

I looked around and was surprised that no one had done this already. I stuck 4 tees together with 3m tape and a few zipties till this part got done. Its perfect if you are running the Accuair valve or all you valves in the same spot and old school analog gages .
Thanks for all the comments people. I must admit this has been fun and I don’t think I am done yet more stuff to come.

astroJR · 02-26-2009, 10:12 AM

You such an inspiration man. Your work is amazing. i just had a few questions. I see you have TEIN shocks. How is the ride? I had those sensatrack ones and they blew in the matter of a month. I have been looking for another shock that can withstand the constant compress and decompress .. Any thoughts?

EZBAKED · 02-26-2009, 10:30 AM

Thanks man…The Teins feel great but going to sell the whole Tein SS coil setup so I need to take them off. A lot of people use the Monroe 5870 so that’s what I was going to use till you said that so now I am on the hunt myself for something worthy I am going to replace the teins here in a few days so I need to get on this..

gothbox · 02-26-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by astroJR

You such an inspiration man. Your work is amazing. i just had a few questions. I see you have TEIN shocks. How is the ride? I had those sensatrack ones and they blew in the matter of a month. I have been looking for another shock that can withstand the constant compress and decompress .. Any thoughts?

I have not had any prob with my shocks at all. Thats strange.

EZBAKED · 02-26-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gothbox

I have not had any prob with my shocks at all. Thats strange.

And your running 1/2" right?

gothbox · 02-26-2009, 12:45 PM

yep, yep.
well I am running a diff shock then you posted EZ, shorter then what most run with air.

EZBAKED · 02-26-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gothbox

yep, yep.
well I am running a diff shock then you posted EZ, shorter then what most run with air.

Dooo tell me more homie

astroJR · 02-26-2009, 01:25 PM

ya what shocks do you have? Maybe i just had a faulty pair?

gothbox · 02-26-2009, 01:49 PM

I am and have been running shocks on DOA for a 2003 Toyota Sienna van.

they let the car drop lower, and leveled out the car at full up.
and so far they have yet to bottom out that I know of, other stuff stops before they do.

I have heard of some using shocks from an old Supra, but I do not know if that was for air, or just lowered.
I have been running the 5870s in Gothbox for a few years now with no prob on there either.

Box Rod · 02-26-2009, 02:53 PM

^^^I'll second this choice of shock. I have been running that shock on the back of Box Rod for about a year now without any problems.

rton20s · 02-26-2009, 04:21 PM

Been gone for a long time, but since i saw this, I thought I would chime in.

Very clean install EZ Baked. It is nice to see the occasional Scion owner doing something more than bolting on parts from someone else. And your setup is actually something I would have considered buying. Of course, I've already had my own thing going for a while.

Either way, you interested in hooking me up with one of those manifolds you built? I've been using that same AccuAir valve for quite a while (before it was labeled with VU4) but still haven't hooked up my gauges. I'll be jumping in over the next few weeks to do some bag swaps and general clean up and it would be a good time to drop the gauges in. PM me if you are interested.

Also, since you are fairly close, you ought to think about coming down to the Danger Zone car show in March 28th here in Visalia. From what I hear quite a few Scions are supposed to be coming down for this one. And my car should be there if I can get my suspension work done in time.

EZBAKED · 04-07-2009, 10:03 AM

Thanks for all the cool comments guys. Well I got my prototype billet bag mounts done and will install asap it will drop the rear ½” and If I switch out the bags to the ua I can get a total of 1-1/2” drop. The finish on them is a little rough but hay this is the R&D phase. Here is a teaser pic of the mounts and a Dillon’s beach pic from this past weekend.

DropBox · 04-07-2009, 11:59 AM

Another nice addition to your line of air accessories. I will be hitting you up for a few things.....

crxgames · 04-07-2009, 12:34 PM

Will those fit contitech bags? They look sick.

gothbox · 04-07-2009, 12:36 PM

Oh they are sick indeed sir.
and will get sicker or something, like anodized black, or polished.

and quality is better the then the comp, and dare I say lower?

rton20s · 04-07-2009, 12:59 PM

Not to speak for the man, but no, Contitechs will not work. You will need to run a bag that is has threaded end plates, not studs. One of the reasons these (and Randode's) brackets are able to go so low is the type of fastener they use. The flush head allen bolts (or flat top socket cap screws, depending on who you ask) are set in to seats machined at an 82 degree total included angle. This allows them to sit flat and the brackets to sit "lower" in their respective seat.

Using a bag like the Contitech you could not get a nut to seat properly on the stud. Even if you cut the stud down flush, you would have a heck of a time getting a nut to seat correctly and still be below the bracket level. And option EZ may consider is machining a flat countersink in so that a nut could be threaded onto the Contitech studs. Though, there might not be enough material there to do so.

Also, something to keep in mind when running an Airhouse II. The bosses that line up with the mounts on Randode's brackets are not threaded. At least not on the set that I received. So you'll need to go get yourself a 3/8-16 tap and thread them yourself. I also have the 82 degree 6 flute countersink bit that I have used on the bags in order to get the bolts down all the way flush.

EZBAKED · 04-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Yes sir you are correct that Contitech bag has studs and they won’t go as low and the SS or the UA bags. I have plenty of room on the bottom mount to counter boar for a nut but no room on the top mount and get the same drop. I needed to go as thin on both the top and bottom as I could there hence like you mentioned the 82 degree. I was able to make the bottom a little thinner by doing a o-ring gasket fitting setup to the bag allowing me to eliminate the bulky brass fitting and gain a little more drop it’s not huge difference but it is different. This is just a R&D test mount setup It holds the pressure fine so far but need to get it mounted up to get a real life test going but so far I am happy with them.

Do you mean the UA bag holes that line up with the SS bag holes are not threaded? I wonder if that was a patent issue no threads would be a enough to get around that and still be able to mount to the same stuff lol tricky tricky.

rton20s · 04-08-2009, 01:13 AM

Correct, the UAS bag holes that line up with SS, Firestone and everyone else is not threaded. I seriously doubt it is a patent issue though. More like UAS provides the bosses, because they know they may be used, but does not thread them in order to reduce manufacturing costs. Kind of a pain for consumers, but what are you gonna do?

Crabs · 04-09-2009, 10:29 PM

Ez lookin good man, lookin real good,

So on this bag issue, i just got some air house bags in for the rear of my buddies and they were threaded problem is that they only go threaded like 3/8 of an inch in tops if even that so the bolts had to be cut in half which was easy, i just don't like using that composite plastic that some of the bags are using these days, the re5's may not get you as low but i think that the rigidity (sound it out haha) is worth it just my 2 cents.

Now i am a novice an have a stoopid question. Is there something you can do to keep the nipples from popping out going up steep slopes? Or should that be a get a smaller shock so it wont strectch thing. Reason i ask is if i slam the back it won't pop out but my bumper sits a lil lower so i can't do it. Just a dumb question from a slow person. I should just zip tie it and call it a day.

Gonna go ahead an reiterate that your ride is lookin sexy.

rton20s · 04-10-2009, 01:34 AM

So you are aware, UAS is not using composite plastics on their AirHouse II or AeroSport. I know because I have done my own tapping on those bags as well as machining them down to better flush mount bolts. And you shouldn't knock composite plate bags completely. Even Slam has been working on composite end plate bags to offer better value to their customers. And I know the guys who run the company personally, they would bever do anything to compromise their companies reputation or quality of their products.

You also have me a little confused when you talk about "nipples." This is a very specific term when it comes to pneumatic fittings. Those specific fittings are threaded. Hopefully these aren't pulling out on you. If your bag mounts are popping out, try a shorter shock to limit travel. If your airline is pulling out of the fitting at the bag, make sure you have a little slack in the airline at both full lift and full drop. I've run both SS and UAS bags on Randode billet brackets and never had a problem with any of these issues.