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10-14-2008, 12:38 PM
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#1 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Bad Camber Wear
I have EC 10mm spacers and -3 camber shims I have worn out 2 brand new neogens down to the cordsin less than 3500 miles is this normal???
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10-14-2008, 01:39 PM
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#2 | | bB Squad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 616
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
Yes. With EC camber shims, this is normal. | |
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10-14-2008, 01:58 PM
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#3 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
Really I thought that people were going 15k miles on tires So how do people do anymore than 3 degrees | |
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10-14-2008, 02:24 PM
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#4 | | Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 35
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
I think the only real way to improve tire wear with so much negative camber is to get your toe settings as close to zero as possible. | |
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10-14-2008, 06:38 PM
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#5 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
so what do i do to dial in the toe | |
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10-14-2008, 06:59 PM
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#6 | | bB Squad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 616
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
Raise or lower the ride height until it falls into spec. Or take out the shims. | |
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10-15-2008, 08:43 AM
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#7 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
Dang! That sucks would a harder compound tire slow down the wear any? Because I know the neogens are pretty soft.
By the way way i have df210 springs so should I be looking into coil overs as well?
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10-15-2008, 09:21 AM
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#8 | | Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Worcester
Posts: 468
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
it's a vicious circle man. | |
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10-15-2008, 09:41 AM
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#9 | | Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids IA
Posts: 191
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
the people getting 15k on camber are moving the tires a lot... they are rotating them to the front, and taking them into a shop and having them remounted on opposite rims etc.. this way both edges of the tires are used, and you are rotating the wear cycle by pulling them to the front where in my case I'm not running any camber so it is saving them and increasing life... I wore out my first set of tires very quickly with my ec camberplates before I figured this out... | |
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10-15-2008, 10:45 AM
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#10 | | Registered User
Join Date: May 2006 Location: socal
Posts: 284
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
lol not really i have 15 k on my tires.. but im not on ec... ec = garbage imo... i have had both otg and ec.. and otg are by far superior... as far as getting your toe to spec... 15 k miles and still have tons of meat on them  | |
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10-15-2008, 10:45 AM
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#11 | | RS4 #303
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auburn, WA
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| Re: Bad Camber Wear
??? do the EC camber plates have Toe correction?
I know the One Ton Garage sets do. | |
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10-15-2008, 10:51 AM
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#12 | | Registered User
Join Date: May 2006 Location: socal
Posts: 284
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
they say they do but after installing they only seem to have toe correction at stock height... lol... garbage... im looking forward to dancars camber plates... hopefully he puts out a quality product.... | |
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10-15-2008, 04:00 PM
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#13 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
What will dancers product do | |
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10-15-2008, 04:33 PM
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#14 | | Registered User
Join Date: May 2006 Location: socal
Posts: 284
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
the same as evolved concepts / otg camber plates.. just hoping he finds a way to get the toe corrected | |
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10-15-2008, 04:56 PM
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#15 | | JDM pawn shop
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Memphis tn.
Posts: 1,508
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
I had EC camper plates and went through two sets of tires in about a month and a half. SO yea EC = epic crap in my opinion. | |
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10-15-2008, 06:19 PM
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#16 | | Straight Creepin
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Anaslime, CA
Posts: 1,915
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
With the EC -3 shims I was replacing the rears about every 3-4k miles...so yeah it's normal. Could of stretched it, but I was lazy in rotating. | |
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10-16-2008, 08:54 AM
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#17 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
This sucks i really like the look! I hope some one comes out with something ASAP! | |
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10-16-2008, 09:01 AM
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#18 | | phillys phattest
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 509
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
i had OTGs on my xB and after 1k miles, you could hardly tell there was any camber wear on the tires. | |
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10-16-2008, 11:19 AM
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#19 | | Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nashville
Posts: 60
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
Where can I get OTGs and how much are they? | |
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10-16-2008, 02:59 PM
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#20 | | Registered User
Join Date: May 2006 Location: socal
Posts: 284
| Re: Bad Camber Wear
good luch finding otg's the company doesnt manufacuter them any more.. .so your only chance to buy them used but they are far and few between : ) like i said dancars product looks very promising since he knows alot about the xb suspension | |
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